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Re: Fwd: [Infra] administration of new mailinglists

 

Stefano Maffulli wrote:
> On Tue 29 May 2012 10:36:05 AM PDT, James E. Blair wrote:
>> Someone pointed out that since the security announcements _haven't_ been
>> going to the announce list, but the main mailing list instead, that they
>> are concerned that people may have missed them.  That seems like a very
>> important and valid concern to me.
> 
> Same here, I'm concerned that important information is sent out through 
> the wrong channel, not reaching the relevant people.

I think the -announce list can be used as a reference channel, from
where given posts can be highlighted in Twitter, blogposts, weekly
newsletter, etc.

>> To punt and say "people will see it on G+ or Twitter or whatever" (as
>> stated elsewhere in this thread) isn't good enough for a project of this
>> size.  What user should they follow?  What hashtag should they search
>> for?  Fundamentally, the same problems will show up
> 
> That's because, fundamentally, sending out a message to the relevant 
> people is a complex problem. Even if you setup the announce- list, you 
> still have to make sure that people will subscribe to it, and make sure 
> the announcers will use it properly. I assumed that since the list 
> existed formally but nobody cared to use it, it was not needed.

In addition to mentioning the list on "getting started" pages, if you
keep on pointing to the -announce archived posts when tweeting about
something, some people will realize subscribing to the source will give
them earlier access to the information. If they care enough, they will
subscribe.

>>> First of all, it's not clear to me *who* would need to send out
>>> announcements. Can somebody start from there?
>>
>> Release team.  Security team.
> 
> Sounds good enough for me. If those teams want to take care of it, I 
> don't have a problem, as long as they're happy with such a tool.
> [...]
> We clearly have two different use cases in mind. Since now it's clear 
> that the announce list is for the release and security team, I remove 
> my objection to have a list for announcements.

I think we should also formally announce things like elections and
election results on that (reference) channel. Obviously the news would
be echoed in a lot of other channels, like the OpenStack blog/newsletter.

-- 
Thierry Carrez (ttx)
Release Manager, OpenStack


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