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[John Paul Walters <jwalters@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I'm not sure that I fully understand the security angle that you're getting at here, but you and Jay are right that we're focusing on adding heterogeneity to Openstack.  Right now we support large shared memory x86 machines, like SGI UVs, GPUs, and Tilera systems.  The blueprints you linked to probably need some updating, but they capture the gist of what we're up to.  So far, we've been focusing on HPC-style workloads.  But if you  had a security application that ran on one of the Tilera boxes, I see no reason why you couldn't use Openstack to provision it.

We'd be interested in hearing if there's anything in particular that our heterogeneous support is lacking that would enable, for example, cloud WAF or other security services.

best,
JP


On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:22 AM, balaji patnala wrote:

> Hi Jay,
>  
> Thanks for information.
>  
> As it is observed that there is some work going on by UCIS team for "Folsom" release on Heterogeneous support.
>  
> Please find the below link:
>  
> i)                 http://wiki.openstack.org/ScheduleHeterogeneousInstances
> ii)                http://wiki.openstack.org/HeterogeneousArchitectureScheduler
> 
> which discusses about  support for Heterogeneous platform support for Open Stack.
>  
> Also in one of the document published by Rackspace, it is said that the heterogeneous platform support can be done by having multiple "Zones" in the cloud. But i doubt this way will have more performance impact and also have more complex networking issues.
>  
> It is observed that Essex Release is not supporting Zones and came to know from mailing list that this support will be available in Folsom release as "Cells".
>  
> I think  that this heterogeneous platform support will enable more options for service providers and as well users for L2/L3 services applications like security services,WAF,LB etc on different platforms in cloud network.
>  
> Iam sorrry if the below queries didnt gave clear information.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 07/02/2012 12:09 PM, balaji patnala wrote:
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > As you know that L2 and L3 services could be the next step of offering
> > as Services from Cloud providers. Security Applications like
> > WAF,IPS,Firewall,VPN etc can be offered as services. These security
> > applications can be run in VMs on Heterogeneous hardware like Freescale
> > and any other platforms.
> 
> I'm not sure if heterogeneous hardware supported is specifically related
> to security, but ...
> 
> > Open Stack must support for the Heterogeneous hardware to enable
> > different hardware platforms apart from x86.
> 
> There's nothing about OpenStack, in general, that is specific to x86
> hardware. It's Python, so if the Linux distribution of your preference
> runs on some other hardware architecture, have at it. The images you
> deploy will need to be tailored to the hardware architecture, of course,
> but that isn't the realm of what OpenStack services do -- that's up to
> the deployer.
> 
> > Please share with us if you have any examples of similar deployments in
> > Clouds.
> 
> ISI is the group most actively working on heterogeneous architecture
> support, but I don't believe they are focusing on security-related
> things at all.
> 
> Best,
> -jay
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 07/02/2012 01:23 AM, balaji patnala wrote:
> >     > Hi,
> >     >
> >     > Does open stack [Essex] release support Heterogeneous hardware for
> >     > creating VMs with Security Applications?
> >     > If not, what is the road map for this. Please let me know.
> >
> >     Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "creating VMs with
> >     security applications"?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     -jay
> >
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