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[Dan Wendlandt <dan@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Eugene, Angus,

Adding openstack-dev (probably the more appropriate mailing list for
discussion a new openstack feature) and some folks from Radware and F5 who
had previously also contacted me about Quantum + Load-balancing as a
service.  I'm probably leaving out some other people who have contacted me
about this as well, but hopefully they are on the ML and can speak up.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Angus Salkeld <asalkeld@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 24/07/12 18:33 -0700, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>
>> Hello community,
>>
>> We at Mirantis have had a number of clients request functionality to
>> control various load balancer devices (software and hardware) via an
>> OpenStack API and horizon. So, in collaboration with Cisco OpenStack
>> team and a number of other community members, we’ve started
>> socializing the blueprints for an elastic load balancer API service.
>> At this point we’d like to share where we are and would very much
>> appreciate anyone participate and provide input.
>>
>
Yes, I definitely think LB is one of the key items that we'll want to
tackle during Grizzly in terms of L4-L7 services.


>
>> The current vision is to allow cloud tenants to request and
>> provision virtual load balancers on demand and allow cloud
>> administrators to manage a pool of available LB devices. Access is
>> provided under a unified interface to different kinds of load
>> balancers, both software and hardware. It means that API for tenants
>> is abstracted away from the actual API of underlying hardware or
>> software load balancers, and LBaaS effectively bridges this gap.
>>
>
That's the openstack way, no arguments there :)


>
>> POC level support for Cisco ACE and HAproxy is currently implemented
>> in the form of plug-ins to LBaaS called “drivers”. We also started some
>> work on F5 drivers. Would appreciate hearing input on what other
>> drivers may be important at this point…nginx?
>>
>
haproxy is the most common non-vendor solution I hear mentioned.


>
>> Another question we have is if this should be a standalone module or a
>> Quantum plugin…
>>
>
Based on discussions during the PPB meeting about quantum becoming core,
there was a push for having a single network service and API, which would
tend to suggest it being a sub-component of Quantum that is independently
loadable.  I also tend to think that its likely to be a common set of
developers working across all such networking functionality, so it wouldn't
seem like keeping different core-dev teams, repos, tarballs, docs, etc.
probably doesn't make sense.  I think this is generally inline with the
plan of allowing Quantum to load additional portions of the API as needed
for additional services like LB, WAN-bridging, but this is probably a call
for the PPB in general.


>
>> In order not to reinvent the wheel, we decided to base our API on
>> Atlas-LB (http://wiki.openstack.org/**Atlas-LB<http://wiki.openstack.org/Atlas-LB>
>> ).
>>
>
Seems like a good place to start.


>
>> Here are all the pointers:
>> * Project overview: http://goo.gl/vZdei
>
>
>> * Screencast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=NgAL-kfdbtE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgAL-kfdbtE>
>> * API draft: http://goo.gl/gFcWT
>> * Roadmap: http://goo.gl/EZAhf
>> * Github repo: https://github.com/Mirantis/**openstack-lbaas<https://github.com/Mirantis/openstack-lbaas>
>
>
Will take a look.. I'm getting a permission error on the overview.



>
>>
>> The code is written in Python and based on the OpenStack service
>> template. We’ll be happy to give a walkthrough over what we have to
>> anyone who may be interested in contributing (for example, creating a
>> driver to support a particular LB device).
>>
>
> I made a really simple loadbancer (using HAproxy) in Heat
> (https://github.com/heat-api/**heat/blob/master/heat/engine/**
> loadbalancer.py<https://github.com/heat-api/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/loadbalancer.py>
> )
> to implement the AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::**LoadBalancer but
> it would be nice to use a more complete loadbancer solution.
> When I get a moment I'll see if I can integrate. One issue is
> I need latency statistics to trigger autoscaling events.
> See the statistics types here:
> http://docs.amazonwebservices.**com/ElasticLoadBalancing/**
> latest/DeveloperGuide/US_**MonitoringLoadBalancerWithCW.**html<http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/ElasticLoadBalancing/latest/DeveloperGuide/US_MonitoringLoadBalancerWithCW.html>
>
> Anyways, nice project.
>

Integration with Heat would be great regardless of the above decisions.

dan




>
> Regards
> Angus Salkeld
>
>
>
>> All of the documents and code are not set in stone and we’re writing
>> here specifically to ask for feedback and collaboration from the
>> community.
>>
>> We would like to start holding weekly IRC meetings at
>> #openstack-meeting; we propose 19:00 UTC on Thursdays (this time seems
>> free according to http://wiki.openstack.org/**Meetings/<http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/>), starting Aug 2.
>>
>> --
>> Eugene Kirpichov
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/**eugenekirpichov<http://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenekirpichov>
>>
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