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["Syd (Sydney) Logan" <slogan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Guess the only advantage would be to minimize the chance of someone missing the security related messages in the noise of a heavy traffic mailing list.

Even if there were a specialized list, I'd think you'd want to cross post security issues to all lists, depending on severity (and with security, all issues are generally severe).

syd

From: openstack-bounces+slogan=broadcom.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openstack-bounces+slogan=broadcom.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Asher Newcomer
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:38 PM
To: Kevin Jackson
Cc: Thierry Carrez; openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Future of Launchpad OpenStack mailing list (this list)

To chime in as a lurker around here, this sounds good, but why add the security list? It seems like security specific topics would interest those subscribed to the general list as well.
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Kevin Jackson <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
My two penneth worth:

I'd be confused as to what the difference between "general" and "operators" would be and would result in people posting to both - so that goes for openstack@... openstack-general@... and openstack-operators@

It would seem that there is a clear distinction between development questions (-dev), announcements (-announce) and then anything else (people asking for help from a variety of skill levels) - so:

openstack@...
openstack-dev@
openstack-announce@
openstack-security@

Would be my vote (sorry for adding in -security, would that be considered?)

Cheers,
Kev



On 4 September 2012 10:37, Thierry Carrez <thierry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:thierry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Stefano Maffulli wrote:
> Now, the main question is still open: where should the General mailing
> list go? Anybody disagrees that we should merge this list into 'Operators'?
I think there are two options:

Option A1:
openstack-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-operators@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-operators@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
...
"openstack-general" makes it clear this is about general questions and
things that address the whole community. This would be a straight
replacement of the current openstack@launchpad mailing-list.

Option A2:
openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-operators@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-operators@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
...
Same, using "openstack" instead of "openstack-general". Makes it clear
it's the "default" list.

Option B:
openstack-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
...
"User" would be a merge of the current list with the operators list. The
benefit is that it matches a recognized pattern in open source project
lists (-user, -dev, -announce). The drawback is that there is no default
list for newcomers or general discussion, and operators-specific topics
will get lost on the -user list, the same way the dev topics used to be.

Personally, I prefer option A. On one side you have a general list where
almost everyone lurks, on the other you have several topic- or
team-oriented lists with sharper focus. One issue is that it's difficult
to spot important things on the (noisy) general list, but we also have a
(moderated) -announce list that we can more actively use for things we
want to make sure everyone sees.

Any other option ? Which one do you prefer ?

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