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[Frans Thamura <frans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

thx Peter. awesome explaination

i am working to list the CF cloud implementation, and seek which one
become opensource again after modification (fork), or make it
propietary.

esp one of my friend that sell cloud services here just do roadshow
today. promoting cloud for startup (my test it is using stackato) with
Microsoft that promoting Azure.



I love have a single CF which the edition can run on OpenStack. (esp
VMWare is Sponsor for OpenStack summit also -- strange what is the
positioning between vsphere and openstack --).


i think the variety of CF and OpenStack, will bring more value to both
community, esp I try to manage both community.


still waiting Patrick Chanezone comment about this, because he is
DIrector of Developer Relations in VMWare that spoke CloudFoundry

Frans



On 9/15/12, John Purrier <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Glad to see some discussion of PaaS and OpenStack on this list. The blog
> post that Frans linked to below is a very good overview of how we (AppFog)
> use, and contribute to, the Cloud Foundry open source project.
>
> What may not be apparent is that Cloud Foundry provides not only a starting
> point for building open PaaS solutions, but also an industry standard API.
> We have implemented CF on a variety of public infrastructures (RAX
> OpenStack, HP OpenStack, AWS) and have the capability of deploying to
> standardized private/on-prem cloud solutions (OpenStack based from
> Rackspace, Piston, Red Hat etc.; AWS compatible from Eucalyptus, etc.).
> With
> a standard API definition there is the opportunity to be much more
> inclusive
> in the PaaS solution space.
>
> For instance, AppFog not only supports Infrastructure Clouds as application
> targets, but also native Platform Clouds, such as Windows Azure. This is
> made possible through our partnership with Microsoft by building a Cloud
> Foundry API that translates to the native Windows Azure platform services.
> Going forward we believe that this will become more commonplace, and that
> the CF API will, in fact, be the defacto PaaS API.
>
> Huge opportunities open for cloud providers, IT departments, and developers
> once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another.
> Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement
> between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers
> easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes…
> This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud
> Foundry PaaS project provides.
>
> This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here:
> https://console.appfog.com/signup Create an app, find the clone button in
> the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1
> click.
>
> Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service
> provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the
> open source Cloud Foundry project: http://www.cloudfoundry.org . Providing
> an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help
> your
> developers and operational teams.
>
> John
>
> John Purrier
> Chief Technology Officer  appfog.com <http://www.appfog.com>
> jpurrier@xxxxxxxxxx
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> About: johnpur <http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur>
>
> From:  Frans Thamura <frans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:  Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM
> To:  Diane Mueller ActiveState <dianem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc:  "openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject:  Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
>
> and this is appfog.
>
> http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foun
> dry/
>
>
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> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura <frans@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id <http://openpaas.or.id> ),
>> in
>> conjuction with openstack-id
>>
>> inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id.
>>
>> and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value
>> proposition on openstack
>>
>> yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow
>> for
>> startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS
>> value-ing the startup to more competitive
>>
>> Frans
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState
>> <dianem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> frans,
>>>
>>> The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged
>>> the
>>> CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's
>>> Stackato
>>> and Vmware'  <http://cloudfoundry.com> cloudfoundry.com
>>> <http://cloudfoundry.com>
>>>
>>> The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in
>>> all
>>> it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. "Forks"
>>> and
>>> "extensions" to the core project are to be expected and encouraged
>>>
>>> This is the "bazaar" effect of open source, the cloud foundry open
>>> source
>>> project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it "open for
>>> business" as each variation meets the needs of different use cases.
>>> CloudFoundry.com <http://CloudFoundry.com>  is VMware's publicly hosted
>>> PaaS
>>> that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code
>>> base.
>>> Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install
>>> and
>>> manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot
>>> of
>>> additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy
>>> to
>>> deploy on-premise.
>>>
>>> ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open
>>> source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API
>>> compatibility with CloudFoundry, we  contribute back to the project,
>>> we've
>>> open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings.
>>>
>>> I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at
>>> the
>>> cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure
>>> that
>>> it works well as an OpenPaaS for  OpenStack.
>>>
>>> Diane Mueller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura <frans@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi all
>>>>
>>>> we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking
>>>> alternative to it
>>>>
>>>> shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage
>>>> different way his cloudfoundry
>>>>
>>>> there are piston, stackato i hear appfog
>>>>
>>>> never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh
>>>>
>>>> bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as
>>>> platform
>>>>
>>>> i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is
>>>> the
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique
>>>> innovation
>>>>
>>>> any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community
>>>> program
>>>>
>>>> thx all
>>>>
>>>> Frans Thamura
>>>> Meruvian
>>>>
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