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[Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sure understood, I just want to make sure that we are doing it for the
right reasons.

I just hope it isn't masquerading some other problem that is best solved
another way.

- Like is it performance problems that people need it so badly for, is it
for network limitations, is it for HA, is it for ...

I guess there is always version N+1 and u have to start N sometime, but
lets just not have to take it out in N+2 (and the pain that that causes).
That¹s all.

On 10/4/12 7:33 PM, "Tom Fifield" <fifieldt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 05/10/12 03:40, Joshua Harlow wrote:
>> Along this type of line, I know we've talked about it before.
>>
>> But is cells the right way that we want to go? Not that it isn't, but
>> possibly at the summit we can talk about it in detail before pushing it
>> into trunk.
>
>Given the overflowing room of people who turned up to the last summit to
>talk about Cells, the enormous amount of positive feedback there, the
>fact it's been so delayed and that the code is already ~done and being
>used in production in some instances, waiting to get it into trunk
>(which is already becoming more and more difficult to do) seems like a
>suboptimal idea.
>
>By all means, discuss the methodology, propose an excellent new idea,
>code it up and rip cells out then. However, knocking back something
>that's this far advanced just seems a little cruel for both those who
>worked so hard, and the deployers who have been screaming for it :)
>
>In NeCTAR's case (perhaps in Rackspace and HP's case before us?), we
>can't wait, we're happy with Cells and we're going live with it whether
>it's in trunk or not. However, it would really, really, really, really
>make it easier to make an awesome OpenStack-based cloud if it was in
>trunk :)
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
>
>>
>> From: Chris Behrens <cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:57 AM
>> To: Sam Morrison <sorrison@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sorrison@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> Cc: "openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, Chris Behrens
>> <cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Cells Status
>>
>> Ok.  This took a lot longer to resolve than I expected, but here we go:
>>
>> https://github.com/comstud/nova/tree/cells_service
>>
>> This is rebased against trunk and contains a bunch of new things since
>> the last branch:
>>
>> Random fixes for things that trunk broke with cells (deleting instances
>> for one)
>> RPC versioning (Thanks to Brian Elliott!)
>> Split Replies and Bandwidth Updates into their own queues to better deal
>> with them
>> A number of admin API extensions modified to support cells (Thanks to
>> Dragon, Alex Meade, Brian Lamar, Matt Sherborne, et al)
>> Snapshots/backups query glance in API cell (Thanks to Iccha)
>> Handle quotas in API cell  (Thanks to Johannes for fixes!)
>>
>> Things are rapidly getting more kludgy because of changes in trunk that
>> don't have any consideration for cells (because cells is not in trunk!).
>>   I'm hoping we can get this into an acceptable shape such that we can
>> get it merged ASAP.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Sam Morrison <sorrison@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:sorrison@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK great, will be good to get this into master. I have some stuff
>>> relating to key pairs, security groups that I'd like to contribute.
>>>
>>> Also we are looking at the ability for you to specify the cell when
>>> booting an instance.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/10/2012, at 1:06 PM, Chris Behrens <cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, it's done.  I just have to deal with some conflicts with our
>>>> internal branch and my public one..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Sam Morrison <sorrison@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:sorrison@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/10/2012, at 12:33 PM, Chris Behrens <cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:cbehrens@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Tom!  I have changes to push up that add rpc versioning,
>>>>>> etc.  Maybe I can get those up tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! I was going to start looking into it but will hold off if
>>>>> you've already done it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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