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[Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I haven't tried it but this might be something 'similar'

http://www.rabbitmq.com/management.html

From: Hao Wang <hao.1.wang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:hao.1.wang@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:20 AM
To: Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: Sandy Walsh <sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, "alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>, "openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue

Hi Sandy,

I couldn't access your links. Originally I though it's my laptop problem but it is not. It's not a good news for both of us that it seems your website is now being blocked by China GFW. :) Have you posted the same articles on other sites? Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks.

Hi Josh,

You're absolutely right. It's impossible to root cause issues without true data. In the meantime, your point reminds me a question, is there a way for rabbitmq to show online statistics of messages, like the output of command "netstat -i" to show the statistics of the in and out number of packets for network interfaces?

Regards,
Howard

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Also some real data/graphs/metrics if u have anything would go a long way in helping others see the problem.

Without data though its hard to know what is broke, what is the limit, and what needs to be fixed.

-Josh

From: Hao Wang <hao.1.wang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:hao.1.wang@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:50 AM
To: Sandy Walsh <sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, "alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alexis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: "openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue

Thanks guys for your insightful replies. I'm studying them. If I've got anything, I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Have a nice day!

Cheers,
Howard

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Sandy Walsh <sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hey Howard,

Queues are generally in memory, but you may turn on persistent (disk) queues in your environment. So that's your limitation. Having rabbitmq on a different server is a good idea.

Also, Queues are only used for control, not user data, so they shouldn't be that big of a burden. Having a queue-based architecture adds some complexity for synchronization, but their benefit of giving us burst-handling capabilities far outweigh that (imho).

If your queues are filling up, you may:
1. need beefier machines processing the offending queues (or rabbit server)
2. need to add more worker nodes (more network, more scheduler, though more compute isn't appropriate)
3. think about clustering rabbit

Notifications are perhaps the chattiest queues in the system, so make sure you have suitable workers there (if you have notifications turned on)

This might help you understand the flow through the queues a little more?
http://www.sandywalsh.com/2012/04/openstack-nova-internals-pt1-overview.html
http://www.sandywalsh.com/2012/09/openstack-nova-internals-pt2-services.html

Cheers,
Sandy


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Subject: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue


Hi guys,

I am trying to figure out how the internal interaction processes within different modules of OpenStack. Frankly speaking, while I'm reading the source codes I lost myself and have to jump out again to look at OpenStack from out of the box. I don't know if anybody has the similiar feeling with me. Is there any picture I can follow to see the message flows?

OpenStack is based on message queue to ensure the expansion easy. Here come my questions. Does anybody know the capacity of message queue? Would the capacity be a bottleneck of the platform?

Thanks,
Howard