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[Peter Pouliot <ppouliot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

David,
At the datacenter IAAS level, your best option from strictly a cost perspective is to run hyper-v role on windows server datacenter core as your hypervisor and license that.  (Once again way over my head, but this is my understanding)

The guests would be covered under that regardless of the density of (windows) vm's on the node.

If you used the free hyper-v server you would have to license each vm.   I'm not sure how the volume/iaas/datacenter licensing works.

Email your exact questions directly and I'll forward the request internally.

p 

-----Original Message-----
From: Davide Guerri [mailto:davide.guerri@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:11 AM
To: Peter Pouliot
Cc: openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OpenStack
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Windows instance licensing in OpenStack

This is a very interesting thread for us :)

How about desktop versions of Windows? 
Is there a volume license that can be used with the IaaS?


Davide.
 


On 23/gen/2013, at 21:45, Peter Pouliot <ppouliot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Site/Volume licensing works too.   The KMS is there to enable/enforce the local activiation/licensing.
>  
> The details of any licenses are also affected by the product sku’s that are involved.
>  
> Peter J. Pouliot, CISSP
> Senior SDET, OpenStack
>  
> Microsoft
> New England Research & Development Center One Memorial 
> Drive,Cambridge, MA 02142 PPOULIOT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Tel: +1(857) 453 
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>  
> From: Willard Dennis [mailto:willarddennis@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:40 PM
> To: Jay Pipes; openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peter Pouliot
> Subject: RE: [Openstack] Windows instance licensing in OpenStack
>  
> See 
> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/existing-customers/product-activati
> on-faq.aspx
>  
> Looks like KMS would be the appropriate means; your MSFT reseller would sell you a KMS license key to use for the appropriate pool of server / app instances, then it is loaded into the KMS server, which then activates the instantiated systems. I checked with MSFT Licensing, the rep said there is no limit on number of uses of a KMS license key, just an aggregate activation threshold. See further http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx for more details.
>  
> We don’t use KMS here, so don’t know about the hairy details, sorry...
>  
> Best,
> Will
>  
>  
> From: Peter Pouliot
> Sent: ‎January‎ ‎23‎, ‎2013 ‎12‎:‎04‎ ‎PM
> To: Jay Pipes, openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Windows instance licensing in OpenStack
>  
> Ok,
> 
> I am no MS licensing expert, however.   Here is my understanding of it.
> 
> If you are using a windows vm on a hypervisor other than windows server with the Hyper-V role enabled you need to license per vm.  
> 
> 
> 
> If you are using windows server with Hyper-V enable you can license at the hypervisor/server rather than at the vm level.
> 
> This does not include Hyper-V server, which only requires licensing of the windows guests.
> 
> p
> 
> 
> 
> Peter J. Pouliot, CISSP
> Senior SDET, OpenStack
> 
> Microsoft
> New England Research & Development Center One Memorial 
> Drive,Cambridge, MA 02142 PPOULIOT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Tel: +1(857) 453 
> 6436
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openstack-bounces+ppouliot=microsoft.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:openstack-bounces+ppouliot=microsoft.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of Jay Pipes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Windows instance licensing in OpenStack
> 
> On 01/23/2013 08:41 AM, Balamurugan V G wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I wonder how the Windows Licensing would work in OpenStack. Lets say 
> > I have a Windows Image which I have already activated. Now if I 
> > launch N instances of this image, what are the SO licensing 
> > implications? Will I have to license/re-activate on each of the instances after they boot up?
> 
> If you use XenServer or KVM, I believe so, yes. I've heard that if you 
> use ESXi you can get some sort of license for all Windows images on a 
> host. Not sure of the details of this, though, I've just heard it 
> through the IT grapevine...
> 
> Best,
> -jay
> 
> p.s. If you find out any more solid info, please do post back :)
> 
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