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[Anne Gentle <anne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor <mordred@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote:
> > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code
> > names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the
> > learning curve and slow uptake.
>
> The problem with OpenStack Networking (or getting rid of codenames) is
> seen with pre-incubation->incubation->integrated cycle.
>
> A project cannot call itself "OpenStack Foo" until it actually _is_
> openstack foo. So any new project by necessity has to start off as
> something else.
>
> But - if we then require them to drop that name and become openstack foo
> when they become incubated or integrated, then we've got what's become a
> stable project with a decent amount of contributors renaming itself.
>
> Every. Time.
>
> The code names aren't just cute. I kind of wish they were, because it
> would make several things much easier if we could just ditch them and do
> a pure openstack. code namespace. But the reality is that it gets really
> really tricky to deal with a bunch of things if they go away.
>

I told Monty and the TC this at the Summit (sorry I couldn't attend the
session about code names). I find this trickiness a weak argument in the
face of the invented names that are getting to be as bad as U.S.
pharmaceuticals. Plus it forces us to put a "lookup" table in the docs
forever. [1] Let's find a process for naming that meets a few reqs:
- describes the service
- goes through a legal review
- enables new eyes to understanding it by reading the English word that the
service represents (that can be translated into a meaningful word in other
languages)

If we have to preface with Stackforge to indicate pre-incubation, that's
fine. Use Incubating or some such to indicate incubation. Meaningful words
have meaning.

I acknowledge we still have to indicate what commands, daemon names, and so
on are related to a particular service. That issue is also fixable with
some resources and effort and pays off in easier adoption and understanding.

Anne

1.
http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/terminology-codenames.html



>
> > On May 11, 2013 3:59 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:davanum@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     Lattice
> >
> >     -- dims
> >
> >     On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >     > Tubes
> >     >
> >     > ;-)
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jason Smith
> >     <jason.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jason.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> Hello,
> >     >> I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather
> >     than just
> >     >> refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code name!
> >     >>
> >     >> Thoughts?
> >     >>
> >     >> Thanks,
> >     >> -js
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