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Message #01104
Re: Fwd: Decision support
Hi Jan-Marc,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I believe that we can establish a firm ground for collaboration.
Today we are just finishing a three day workshop at the National
Institute of Science & Computing in Brazil (INCT).
http://macc.lncc.br/principal.php?lang=1
We have been very successful in building further collaboration and
spreading the word about the need for multi-level modeling in
healthcare. It is good that we have a few weeks to setup our
arrangements because out of respect for our team and especially for
Roger Erens (he was my intellectual/OSHIP lifeline for many months) I
need to prepare a vision document and let everyone else know what
happened, what is happening and the decisions that we need to make as a
group.
If you are in agreement, then when I publish the vision document I will
let you know. Okay?
Yes there is a demo and if you need any help at all myself or anyone
else on the development team will be happy to assist. The project is
currently a Python implementation but Java and Ruby are coming very
soon. You can get the code at https://launchpad.net/oship feel free to
request to join the development team mailing list. The group is
moderated because the entire team has commit access. We are growing
quickly and I need to re-organize :-) but this is the way it is at the
moment.
Regards,
Tim
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:55 +0200, Jan-Marc Verlinden wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> Yes, we are willing to participate in the open source project. We
> believe in open source, but we would also like to earn some money.
> That is why we did not open source our openEHR Kernel yet.
>
>
> At this moment we are in two (large) Philips projects for the EU where
> we are developing decision support and clinical path's for the ER. To
> be honest; my company will never sell to a hospital, but we deliver
> our ICT to my sister company where we deliver Home Care. In that
> setting we have real users and real customers who get angry if things
> do not work..
>
>
> So now the involvement; how do you see, or like, that? Nothing much
> will happen just before Holidays, but in two or tree months we are
> ready to get started with decision support. BTW I have a agreement
> with TNO, our National Qualification Body, whom will deliver me 1 FTE
> for the next tree years, just to develop Dutch Archetypes. Minor
> detail, but nit the least important.
>
>
> Is there already some kind of demo (you are mentioning one..)?
>
> =====
> Kind regards, Jan-Marc Verlinden
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> 2010/6/30 Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>
> Hi Roger,
>
> Thanks for forwarding this.
>
> Hi Jan-Marc,
>
> I hope I can help or at least establish some reference for
> further
> collaboration.
>
> The short answer is that we do not use archetyped data in the
> demo. But
> there is no difference in where the data really comes from.
> In this
> demo also, the rules are hand coded. The concepts that I
> validated in
> EGADSS are being worked on as a multi-level modeling solution.
>
> If you are familiar with John Fox's work in the UK you will
> find this
> very similar to Proforma. We have a startup project
> "Multi-level
> Authoring of Guidelines" (MAG) that is closely allied with the
> Multi-Level Healthcare Information Modeling project
> http://www.mlhim.org
> This (MLHIM 1.0.2) is closely based on the current openEHR
> Reference
> Model and we intend to finish the development of tools for
> migration
> between MLHIM/openEHR 1.0.2 and MLHIM 2.x
>
> MLHIM 2 will be using all XML Technologies for tool and
> constraint
> definitions. Our experience shows that this will rapidly grow
> the
> community.
>
> MLHIM is based HEAVILY on a Tri-Open principle of:
> 1) open source
> 2) open content
> 3) open governance
>
> If your company would like to join us in collaborative
> development
> please let us know.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:17 +0200, Roger Erens wrote:
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > Jan-Marc visited our website. Not sure if you receive such
> e-mails as
> > well. So, just to be sure I'm forwarding his message below
> to you, since
> > you're the Decision Support guru; I cannot help him.
> > BTW: ZorgGemak is Dutch for: CareComfort.
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Decision support
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:01:25 +0200
> > From: jan-marc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: admin@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > You are receiving this mail because Jan-Marc Verlinden
> > jan-marc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > is sending feedback about the site administered by you at
> > http://www.oship.org.
> > The message sent was:
> >
> > In reaction to; You can see decision support as a service
> proof of
> > concept implemented in 2004-2006. But alas, funding ran out
> and there
> > was no interest to maintain it at the time. Tim Cook -
> Principle
> > architect EGADSS http://sourceforge.net/projects/egadss/ We
> are also
> > implementing decision support on top of the Open Source
> Health
> > Information Platform The same concepts as EGADSS but
> slightly modernized
> > using XML. See: http://www.mlhim.org &
> http:www.oship.org.
> >
> >
> > In my company ZorgGemak.com we have set up a EHR based on
> openEHR. Next
> > step would be to implement decision support, could we have
> contact on
> > this topic? Thanks, Jan-Marc
> >
> >
>
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