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[Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jan-Marc,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I believe that we can establish a firm ground for collaboration.

Today we are just finishing a three day workshop at the National
Institute of Science & Computing in Brazil (INCT). 
http://macc.lncc.br/principal.php?lang=1 

We have been very successful in building further collaboration and
spreading the word about the need for multi-level modeling in
healthcare. It is good that we have a few weeks to setup our
arrangements because out of respect for our team and especially for
Roger Erens (he was my intellectual/OSHIP lifeline for many months) I
need to prepare a vision document and let everyone else know what
happened, what is happening and the decisions that we need to make as a
group. 

If you are in agreement, then when I publish the vision document I will
let you know.  Okay?

Yes there is a demo and if you need any help at all myself or anyone
else on the development team will be happy to assist.  The project is
currently a Python implementation but Java and Ruby are coming very
soon. You can get the code at https://launchpad.net/oship feel free to
request to join the development team mailing list.  The group is
moderated because the entire team has commit access.  We are growing
quickly and I need to re-organize :-) but this is the way it is at the
moment. 

Regards,
Tim


On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:55 +0200, Jan-Marc Verlinden wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> 
> Yes, we are willing to participate in the open source project. We
> believe in open source, but we would also like to earn some money.
> That is why we did not open source our openEHR Kernel yet.
> 
> 
> At this moment we are in two (large) Philips projects for the EU where
> we are developing decision support and clinical path's for the ER. To
> be honest; my company will never sell to a hospital, but we deliver
> our ICT to my sister company where we deliver Home Care. In that
> setting we have real users and real customers who get angry if things
> do not work..
> 
> 
> So now the involvement; how do you see, or like, that? Nothing much
> will happen just before Holidays, but in two or tree months we are
> ready to get started with decision support. BTW I have a agreement
> with TNO, our National Qualification Body, whom will deliver me 1 FTE
> for the next tree years, just to develop Dutch Archetypes. Minor
> detail, but nit the least important.
> 
> 
> Is there already some kind of demo (you are mentioning one..)?
> 
> =====
> Kind regards, Jan-Marc Verlinden
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> 
> 2010/6/30 Tim Cook <timothywayne.cook@xxxxxxxxx>
>         Hi Roger,
>         
>         Thanks for forwarding this.
>         
>         Hi Jan-Marc,
>         
>         I hope I can help or at least establish some reference for
>         further
>         collaboration.
>         
>         The short answer is that we do not use archetyped data in the
>         demo.  But
>         there is no difference in where the data really comes from.
>          In this
>         demo also, the rules are hand coded.  The concepts that I
>         validated  in
>         EGADSS are being worked on as a multi-level modeling solution.
>         
>         If you are familiar with John Fox's work in the UK you will
>         find this
>         very similar to Proforma.  We have a startup project
>         "Multi-level
>         Authoring of Guidelines" (MAG) that is closely allied with the
>         Multi-Level Healthcare Information Modeling project
>         http://www.mlhim.org
>         This (MLHIM 1.0.2) is closely based on the current openEHR
>         Reference
>         Model and we intend to finish the development of tools for
>         migration
>         between MLHIM/openEHR 1.0.2 and MLHIM 2.x
>         
>         MLHIM 2 will be using all XML Technologies for tool and
>         constraint
>         definitions. Our experience shows that this will rapidly grow
>         the
>         community.
>         
>         MLHIM is based HEAVILY on a Tri-Open principle of:
>         1) open source
>         2) open content
>         3) open governance
>         
>         If your company would like to join us in collaborative
>         development
>         please let us know.
>         
>         Kind Regards,
>         Tim
>         
>         
>         On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:17 +0200, Roger Erens wrote:
>         > Hi Tim,
>         >
>         > Jan-Marc visited our website. Not sure if you receive such
>         e-mails as
>         > well. So, just to be sure I'm forwarding his message below
>         to you, since
>         > you're the Decision Support guru; I cannot help him.
>         > BTW: ZorgGemak is Dutch for: CareComfort.
>         >
>         > -------- Original Message --------
>         > Subject: Decision support
>         > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:01:25 +0200
>         > From: jan-marc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         > To: admin@xxxxxxxxx
>         >
>         >
>         > You are receiving this mail because Jan-Marc Verlinden
>         > jan-marc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         > is sending feedback about the site administered by you at
>         > http://www.oship.org.
>         > The message sent was:
>         >
>         > In reaction to; You can see decision support as a service
>         proof of
>         > concept implemented in 2004-2006. But alas, funding ran out
>         and there
>         > was no interest to maintain it at the time. Tim Cook -
>         Principle
>         > architect EGADSS http://sourceforge.net/projects/egadss/ We
>         are also
>         > implementing decision support on top of the Open Source
>         Health
>         > Information Platform The same concepts as EGADSS but
>         slightly modernized
>         > using XML. See: http://www.mlhim.org &amp;
>         http:www.oship.org.
>         >
>         >
>         > In my company ZorgGemak.com we have set up a EHR based on
>         openEHR. Next
>         > step would be to implement decision support, could we have
>         contact on
>         > this topic? Thanks, Jan-Marc
>         >
>         >
>         
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