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On 2009-07-23T10:32:13+00:00 Schmirrwurst wrote:

I've a sony vaio with geforce 8400M GT, and I've no support for
backlight, no laptop_panel in hal, no entry in /sys/class/backlight

I've reported the bug in hal, in devicekit, in kernel, by nvidia...

In fact, a lot of people are affected with this problem on laptops from
hp, samsung, sony and mac.

-Hal is deprieciated
-devicekit won't fix some device specific issue
-nvidia is not supporting backlight, as every manufaturer is managing it differently
-kernel team is not reacting

I'm waiting already 2 years for a solution ! I hope to have it fixed for
karmic, if not, we all are to wait 6 other month !

Martin Pitt (hal/devicekit developper) said he could make it work if xorg could fix it in xbacklight...
There is already the utility smartdimmer (or nvclock) that is able to set or get backlight, it could be possible to use that code...

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/10

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On 2009-07-23T10:45:46+00:00 Martin Pitt wrote:

As written on http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-
devel/2009-July/000268.html, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/gnome-power-manager/+bug/385723/comments/5,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-
manager/+bug/385723/comments/9, this is not really a gnome-power-manager
problem really.

The entire idea of smartdimmer is a hack, device drivers belong into
kernel just as any other backlight interface the kernel offers. If X.org
merges the smartdimmer logic in its xbacklight support, that's fine of
course.

The hal support for smartdimmer isn't going away anytime soon, so for
these platforms it's perhaps possible to add back the gnome-power-
manager support for it. (We could use this bug for tracking that.)

Note that the smartdimmer addition to hal itself is also an Ubuntuism
and was rejected upstream for similar reasons
(http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/hal/2009-January/012859.html,
should go into the kernel).

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/11

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On 2009-07-23T10:46:51+00:00 Martin Pitt wrote:

Oops, sorry, this was linked from a g-p-m Ubuntu bug, so I saw too late
that this is actually filed against X.org, so my previous comment is not
entirely relevant. Sorry for the confusion.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/12

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On 2009-07-23T11:22:37+00:00 Keith Packard wrote:

This is not a bug in xbacklight, but in the nVidia driver.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/13

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On 2009-07-23T11:57:32+00:00 Schmirrwurst wrote:

Do xbacklight needs to have the nvidia driver in use to work ? is it
communicating through the driver ?

I know from nvidia that they won't support backlight in the driver because the manufacturer are managing backlight differently...
(if it is another issue, do it has been reported somewhere by nvidia ?)

smartdimmer and nvclock are working even without having the driver
installed. Could it be possible to change xbacklight the same way for
the nvidia cards that are making problems ?

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/14

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On 2009-07-29T11:13:55+00:00 Schmirrwurst wrote:

Then changing product from xrandr to dirver/nvidia...

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/385723/comments/20


** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

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