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[Bug 108527] Re: X freezes when compiz is enabled on ATI X300

 

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On 2008-03-17T11:09:16+00:00 Forlong wrote:

I'm sorry, I don't know which version of the radeon driver is in
debian's xserver-xorg-video-ati packages, I hope you can help me out
here.

Anyway, here's the problem:
On xserver-xorg-video-ati versions greater than 1:6.6.3 (like in Debian Lenny or Ubuntu Feisty) the X server freezes when using Compiz or other 3D applications like tuxracer.

With Compiz on Gutsy (xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.195) or Hardy (1:6.7.0) it takes about 20 minutes until it freezes, sometimes less.
X freezes immediately when trying to run a 3D game.

This is not the case on a current install of Debian testing (Lenny) or
Ubuntu Feisty.


I started a bugreport on Launchpad with additional information: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/195051

And here's another report for that issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/108527


I couldn't find any information if the problem is already known around here.
Please let me know if you need any further informations.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/157

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On 2008-03-18T11:26:30+00:00 humufr wrote:

I have exactly the same problem with Gutsy + 6.8.0

I'm using the ppa packages:

http://ppa.launchpad.net/tormodvolden/ubuntu/

Thank you for the driver. Good luck.

N.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/158

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On 2008-03-21T10:34:26+00:00 Kris wrote:

I can confirm this with Ubuntu Hardy (current as of 2008/03/21) on two
systems, both using the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver.  One is a
ThinkPad T40 with the ATI Mobility 9000 (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]), and the other is a workstation with an
ATI X600 (ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]).

Both exhibit the freezing behaviour described above, usually leaving
only the mouse cursor active.  The system is unresponsive to mouse
clicks or keyboard events other than Alt+SysRq which can be used to
"safely" restart the system.

I haven't been able to reproduce this bug with any reliability.  It
seems to happen randomly when using Compiz.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/159

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On 2008-04-16T17:02:08+00:00 Bryce Harrington wrote:

This is also in Ubuntu bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-
driver-ati/+bug/195051 , which has some backtraces and additional
information on the bug.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/174

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On 2008-04-17T16:22:30+00:00 Bryce Harrington wrote:

I talked with Alex at XDC2008 yesterday about this.  He felt it was due
to wrongly guessed registered back before the AMD documentation
releases, that can now be fixed up by redoing those mappings; this is
work he plans to undertake within the next 3-6 months.

Backtrace (while running Bubble3D screensaver):
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12894430/backtrace-bubble3d

Backtrace (while running Extreme Tuxracer game):
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12895009/backtrace-etracer  The music
continues playing, but the X screens are frozen

Backtraces (without full symbols):
* http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12863959/backtrace2
* http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12177917/Xorg-lockup.txt
* http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12172793/gdb

Sample Xorg.0.log's:
* http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12433344/Xorg.0.log
* http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12172839/Xorg.0.log

Workarounds (not widely verified):
* Option "AGPMode" "1" - but hinders performance

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/175

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On 2008-04-21T17:19:52+00:00 Kris wrote:

Frustrated by the freeze in Ubuntu Hardy (current), I decided to try
Fedora 8 to see if there was any difference.  In three weeks of running
Fedora 8 with Compiz enabled, I have yet to see the freeze.  The Fedora
version of the driver is also 6.8.0-1, although I have no idea if
they've modified it in any way.  Has this bug been confirmed on any
distributions other than Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04?

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/176

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On 2008-04-21T17:41:56+00:00 Daniel Faulkner wrote:

I'm also having this same problem on my hardy heron installation. It's
upto date at time of writing and uses an ATI Radeon 9800pro and the
opensource ATI driver.

It will seemingly randomly lockup everything is unresponsive apart from the mouse cursor, i have accessed the computer in this state as SSH seems to still work and running the top command shows compiz.real using up all available cpu and using sudo kill -9 i'm able to regain use of that pc again (just loosing the window decorations).
If there is anything needed to further aid the resolution of this bug please ask and i can try to help (but with the freezes being quite random and my time limited i might not be able to check this report to regularly).

PS: I'm currently only assuming this issue is related to the driver, it
could be compiz itself but reading this bug description and the related
launchpad.net bug it seems more likely my problem is the same as
described here.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/177

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On 2008-04-22T07:03:40+00:00 Forlong wrote:

(In reply to comment #5)
> Has this bug been confirmed on any distributions other than Ubuntu 7.10 and
> 8.04?
> 
I was able to reproduce this bug on Debian sid (xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.8.0) and Arch Linux (xf86-video-ati 6.8.0).

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/178

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On 2008-04-23T22:45:48+00:00 agd5f wrote:

Has anyone tested with xf86-video-ati from git master and the drm from git master?
There are several commits to both that may help.

Relevant commits:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=0a96173cc38e506728d4c3f2dd383ba56e856578
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=1674d2817929fe4ee4e1c4762e89600119dbdc50
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=753a4bdf1b554490f7b288c0203050b5114433c3

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/180

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On 2008-04-25T13:10:55+00:00 humufr wrote:

I try this morning and the problem is still there. Freeze after some
time of using compiz.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/181

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On 2008-05-07T03:00:54+00:00 agd5f wrote:

Do either of the following options help?

Option "BusType" "PCI"
Option "AGPMode" "1"

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/187

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On 2008-05-09T14:31:35+00:00 Matt Ziegelbaum wrote:

I flipped on EXA last night, and it seems to have solved the issue (that
or some Ubuntu bug pushes).  Anyway, here's my relevant information:

Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 (fully updated)

uname -r: 2.6.24-16-generic

dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati: 
ii  xserver-xorg-video-ati  1:6.8.0-1  X.Org X server -- ATI display driver

Xserver version: 1.4.0.90

I'm running an ATI FireGL v3200 (M24 GL 3154 PCIE) on a Thinkpad T43p.
The relevant part of my xorg.conf is:

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "ATI Technologies Inc M24GL [Mobility FireGL V3200]"
        Driver          "radeon"
        VendorName  "IBM ThinkPad"
        Option      "DynamicClocks" "on"
        Option          "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
        Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
        Option          "AccelMethod" "EXA"     
        Option          "RenderAccel" "true"
        Option      "EnablePageFlip" "true"
        Option      "ColorTiling" "on"
        BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

The only thing I've changed myself is that I added AccelMethod EXA
yesterday, and its hte first time I've gone more than 24 hours without
Compiz causing a hardlock.

Hope that helps...

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/188

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On 2008-05-18T09:35:53+00:00 Forlong wrote:

(In reply to comment #10)
> Do either of the following options help?
> 
> Option "BusType" "PCI"
> Option "AGPMode" "1"
> 

Both seem to work around the freeze. At least after a quick tuxracer
test.

"BusType" "PCI" is painfully slow, though.

"AGPMode" "1" results in a somewhat playable tuxracer (but then again,
the radeon driver never worked for me satisfactorily when it comes to 3D
games) -- I don't have anything to compare, though, because without the
option, it (still) freezes instantly.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/189

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On 2008-05-18T09:52:56+00:00 Forlong wrote:

I just did another test, where I replaced

 Option "AGPMode" "1"

with

 Option "DynamicClocks" "on"
 Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
 Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
 Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"     
 Option "RenderAccel" "true"
 Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
 Option "ColorTiling" "on"

and tuxracer immediately froze again.

Maybe I shouldn't have copied *all* of Matt's options but frankly I'm not in the mood for any more trial and error.
But Alex, if you need me to do any further testing, just ask.

I will stick to "AGPMode" "1" for now and report back if I stumble
across any issues.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/190

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On 2008-05-18T10:23:38+00:00 Forlong wrote:

Sorry for the multiple posts but I just did another test where I only
used

 Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"

because it was recommended in my report over at Launchpad.

The result was a much more fluent tuxracer that was actually playable.
The downside however, is a much slower 2D rendering. For example when moving a window over an area of the desktop with icons, the background flickers.
Also moving a window from one viewport to another on Compiz will result in a pretty rough transition.

It would be great if we could have the best of both worlds.
Adding both options unfortunately doesn't do the trick.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/191

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On 2008-05-18T11:04:22+00:00 agd5f wrote:

(In reply to comment #14)
> Sorry for the multiple posts but I just did another test where I only used
> 
>  Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
> 
> because it was recommended in my report over at Launchpad.
> 
> The result was a much more fluent tuxracer that was actually playable.
> The downside however, is a much slower 2D rendering. For example when moving a
> window over an area of the desktop with icons, the background flickers.
> Also moving a window from one viewport to another on Compiz will result in a
> pretty rough transition.
> 
> It would be great if we could have the best of both worlds.
> Adding both options unfortunately doesn't do the trick.
> 

EXA preforms pretty well with the latest ati driver from git a recent X
server.

The root of this problem in your case is that AGP sucks.  There are just
too many combinations of agp cards and chipsets that only work at
specific settings (some only work at 1x, others only work at 4x or 8x,
etc.).  We've tried both defaults in the driver, but someone's
combination always breaks.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/192

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On 2009-10-05T06:59:09+00:00 Forlong wrote:

I am on the beta of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) and I'm glad to tell you this issue seems to be gone for good.
I did not need to create a xorg.conf and set something manually this time.
Compiz works out of the box and does not cause X to freeze.

I even tried running "Extreme Tuxracer" and while the game runs horribly
slow, it does not freeze.

According to my Xorg.0.log, I am using the radeon driver so I consider this fixed.
Thank you.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/193

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On 2009-10-05T07:44:49+00:00 Forlong wrote:

Sorry, I obviously spoke too soon. After a couple of days without a
problem, X froze just now using Openoffice (and Compiz enabled).

reopening...

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/obsolete-
junk/+bug/108527/comments/194


** Changed in: xf86-video-ati
   Importance: Unknown => Critical

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