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[Setve Gentilly <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know
that......

I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and
they warned me about your type........

Maybe Windows is the best system...............

I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my
attention.

Gentilli.



On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Tom <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install.  It
> is
> about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed.
>
> @ Martin
>
> I think we are agreeing but have semantic differences.  Imo an install is
> not
> complete until the system is tweaked and made usable for the use the user
> requires.  A basic install of Windows is not ready to use imo.  A basic
> install
> of Ubuntu is also not fully ready (imo) but has stuff ready to use that
> Windows
> doesn't and usually takes less to get it ready.
>
> To get Windows to the same level as Ubuntu you have to install many
> programs
> such as Office (i would use OpenOffice in Windows, not MicroSquish Office,
> and
> Firefox not IE for safety and security).  'Obviously' for
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice
> i would do
>
> Tools - Options - Load/Save
> to set all the defaults to the unsafe ".doc" and ".xls" ones that people
> prefer
> in the Windows-world.
>
> Then both Windows & Ubuntu need multimedia players (Vlc for both, also
> MPlayer
> for Ubuntu and hopefully Zoom Player for Windows), Gimp (for both) and
> whichever
> other packages the user would appear to need from whatever they have been
> talking about, mostly Ubuntu already covers those but Windows doesn't.
>  Ubuntu
> makes a lot of that easy by following the Community Documentation Medibuntu
> page
> but there are countless blogs, magazines and stuff either in the fake-world
> or
> online that cover the multimedia issues.
>
> Both Windows and Ubuntu need drivers for any oddly awkward hardware.  For
> Ubuntu
> these are mostly online but it may take some hunting to find them.  For
> Windows
> you might need to find that crusty old Cd that came with the device.
>  Inevitably
> some stuff wont work with Windows because "it is too old and you should buy
> a
> new device and stop being such a cheapskate".  With Ubuntu some newer stuff
> wont
> work but might do fairly soon especially if you post a bug-report about it.
>  Ati
> & NVidia have communities doing a lot of work right now and updates happen
> quite
> frequently.  Even the companies themselves are making efforts to provide
> more
> support (for fear of losing customers now linux usage is reaching above
> 4%).
> Other companies will follow their lead.
>
> Both Windows and Ubuntu will need to be updated and this is one area that
> Ubuntu
> really scores highly because it does everything, all the codecs, libraries,
> drivers, programs, packages, everything all in one go & you can walk away
> and
> leave it to get on with it with no further interaction.  Windows will
> usually
> require several reboots and requires the update process to be repeated many
> times before it is 'completely' updated.  Also Windows tends to  make a
> fuss
> about stuff requiring user-input.  Also Windows doesn't update any of the
> drivers or programs, not even free ones such as Adobe flash-player or pdf
> reader.  So an ubuntu system is fully patched and ready whereas a Windows
> one
> seldom reaches that stage.
>
> Both systems often need tweaking to set which applications are preferred
> for
> certain tasks (right-click on a file-type and set what it opens with)
> although
> with Windows you seldom get a choice and just have to be careful about
> which
> programs you install last as each one grabs control.  With Ubuntu you can
> finesse it at almost any point.
>
> However, none of this is what this bug-report is about.  All of this
> depends on
> the skill (in the particular OS they are attempting to install) of the
> person
> doing the install and how easy they find it to access useful help if they
> run
> into problems.  Again, that is not what this bug-report is about.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
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> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
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>
> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player: New
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
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