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Re: IRC Meeting Monday, 16 July 2012 (!)

 

Hi everyone,

Ali requested a chatlog and I was busy during the week, but here it is...
Most of the below information has been merged in the respective tickets.

Best Regards
Michael

(07:34:05) Michael Nagel: hi robert_ancell
(07:34:17) robert_ancell: nailora, hi
(07:34:52) Michael Nagel: how are you?
(07:35:38) robert_ancell: good
(07:35:53) Michael Nagel: should we just begin or wait?
(07:38:32) robert_ancell: lets go
(07:39:20) Michael Nagel: missing signal disconnect: simple-scan crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke() https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/843361
(07:40:09) Michael Nagel: jospeh did not report back yet
(07:40:26) Michael Nagel: but i think the bug might be fixed
(07:40:49) Michael Nagel: and it was a crasher for quite a few people
(07:41:38) Michael Nagel: it should probably be marked as fix committed...
(07:41:56) Michael Nagel: or do you think there is something to do on this one?
(07:42:06) robert_ancell: he did contact me directly and I think there may be some more work there
(07:42:35) robert_ancell: I fixed some other crashes I could reproduce but I don't know if I can reproduce that one
(07:42:42) robert_ancell: we need some instructions on how to reproduce
(07:44:12) Michael Nagel: as a first measure people should report back if it still happens with the latest changes
(07:44:40) Michael Nagel: but then again, nightly builds are still not working properly
(07:44:56) robert_ancell: yes
(07:45:35) Michael Nagel: do you think it is worthwile to add the results of your discussion to the ticket?
(07:45:57) Michael Nagel: i will once again ask for a way to reproduce / ask if it still happens.
(07:48:32) Michael Nagel: Documentation cannot be translated https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/543282
(07:48:33) Michael Nagel: i closed that one prematurely. but something is still broken. nobody seems to be experienced how to configure things correctly...
(07:48:57) robert_ancell: oh, it is on the merge proposal: https://code.launchpad.net/~jnuzman/simple-scan/bug-843361/+merge/113867
(07:49:15) robert_ancell: yeah, literally no-one seems to have any idea
(07:50:21) Michael Nagel: do you think someone from launchpad should know?
(07:52:02) robert_ancell: yes
(07:52:13) robert_ancell: you could chase it up in #launchpad
(07:52:37) Michael Nagel: i tried. i am going to try again :)
(07:56:00) Michael Nagel: Help Files Need Update https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/1023737
(07:57:06) robert_ancell: hadn't seen that, nice
(07:57:14) robert_ancell: can you handle that one?
(07:57:19) Michael Nagel: yes
(07:57:36) robert_ancell: go for it
(07:57:48) Michael Nagel: ali made some comments and even was interested in joining the irc meeting
(07:58:06) Michael Nagel: he is from new york however and its the middle of the night however
(07:58:13) robert_ancell: sure
(07:58:24) robert_ancell: now we have the worst combination for meetings :)
(07:58:52) Michael Nagel: i hope he stays active and see what i can do to "mentor" him
(07:59:48) Michael Nagel: as for the help file update, i think it is correct/reasonable and just let him have a go
(08:00:25) robert_ancell: yep, we'll just review the patches, but you only need common sense to review help files
(08:00:52) Michael Nagel: HPLIP scanned documents saved as pdf file cannot be opened by WIndows users. https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/1023803
(08:01:08) Michael Nagel: this is quite new but got my attention
(08:01:26) Michael Nagel: i dont think it is the same pdf problem that existed a while ago
(08:01:42) Michael Nagel: but there might be something about the pdf export
(08:02:03) Michael Nagel: i will boot up windows right now and try to open that file
(08:02:50) Michael Nagel: could you upload a pdf created with simple scan (i do not have a scanner avaiable right now) for comparison?
(08:03:06) robert_ancell: ok, thanks. unfortunately almost all the PDF software I have seen only has generic error messages
(08:03:15) robert_ancell: you have simple-scan there now?
(08:03:28) robert_ancell: you can run 'simple-scan test' from a terminal and that uses the test SANE driver
(08:03:46) Michael Nagel: i have simple scan from precise
(08:04:41) Michael Nagel: nailor@needle:~$ simple-scan test
(08:04:42) Michael Nagel: zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  simple-scan test
(08:04:49) robert_ancell: ech!
(08:04:49) Michael Nagel: after i clicked scan...
(08:05:07) robert_ancell: oh, that might be the menu bug - there is a bug in the Ubuntu menu code
(08:05:15) robert_ancell: wait a few seconds before starting the scan
(08:05:36) Michael Nagel: is that just for the test driver or a general thing
(08:05:46) robert_ancell: general
(08:05:55) Michael Nagel: is there a ticket about this one?
(08:06:08) robert_ancell: I don't think so
(08:06:17) Michael Nagel: does not happen when waiting for a few seconds
(08:06:20) robert_ancell: well, I haven't looked but the menu code is notoriously unstable
(08:06:34) Michael Nagel: so it is related to the use of unity? global-menu?
(08:06:36) robert_ancell: the backtrace I've seen from simple-scan shows it's happening inside the GTK menu plugin
(08:07:58) robert_ancell: yes
(08:08:15) robert_ancell: I haven't got much time, how many items do you have?
(08:08:34) Michael Nagel: some more.
(08:08:46) Michael Nagel: let me pick the most important
(08:08:56) Michael Nagel: as alwayws, we can end any time
(08:09:07) Michael Nagel: Save button doesn't warn before overwriting existing file https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/842076
(08:09:27) Michael Nagel: this seems to be counter-intuitve
(08:10:03) robert_ancell: ok
(08:10:20) Michael Nagel: and could you check once again if there are private bugs in the ubuntu project?
(08:10:51) robert_ancell: I think you should be able to see them now anyway
(08:11:21) robert_ancell: can you see this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/984102
(08:11:41) Michael Nagel: This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.
(08:11:47) robert_ancell: ok
(08:12:12) robert_ancell: stupid lp :_
(08:12:13) robert_ancell: :)
(08:12:52) robert_ancell: just the one then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-scan/+bug/1008853 (the other one was invalid)
(08:13:38) robert_ancell: actually there is something you could help with - are you familiar with the SRU process?
(08:13:39) robert_ancell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
(08:14:03) robert_ancell: if you could work out the bugs that are significant enough in master and propose them for SRUs that will help a lot of users
(08:14:11) robert_ancell: in trunk I mean
(08:14:57) Michael Nagel: i have heard about sru-
(08:14:58) robert_ancell: the process seems quite complicated but it's basically getting the bug into a clean state with the reasoning, test case and regression potential so it can be easily checked
(08:15:22) Michael Nagel: i will read the wiki page and related info and look into it
(08:15:59) Michael Nagel: i think it might be worthwile to have sru
(08:16:17) Michael Nagel: on the other hand a ppa with the latest builds would also be great
(08:16:28) Michael Nagel: is it still stalled? Create daily build https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/897027
(08:16:51) robert_ancell: yes, I don't know why it's not fixed in LP.  I think I'll just start pushing some builds after I make changes
(08:17:25) Michael Nagel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/897469 should be merged!
(08:17:36) robert_ancell: btw here is an example of an SRU I have done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gnome-games/+bug/896617
(08:17:59) robert_ancell: it didn't work for me and I'm awaiting a response
(08:19:24) robert_ancell: next
(08:20:21) Michael Nagel: i want to mention the page size problem, and then we could finish for today...
(08:20:26) robert_ancell: ok
(08:20:26) Michael Nagel: Simple Scan's "Page Size" has no effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/611036 
(08:20:29) robert_ancell: yep
(08:20:31) Michael Nagel: Use page size in settings as default crop https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/550856
(08:20:31) robert_ancell: needs fixing
(08:20:39) robert_ancell: seems the right solution
(08:20:45) robert_ancell: you can merge those
(08:21:37) Michael Nagel: will do
(08:22:35) Michael Nagel: ok, thank you
(08:22:46) Michael Nagel: i will look into the windows pdf bug
(08:22:49) robert_ancell: thanks, talk to you later (it's my daughters bath time now)
(08:22:58) Michael Nagel: update all tickets we discussed
(08:23:05) Michael Nagel: send the log to ali / the list
(08:23:05) robert_ancell: I'm trying to make some more time for simple-scan, so will try and fix some of the smaller bugs
(08:23:15) Michael Nagel: have a great time!
(08:23:31) Michael Nagel: see you!



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