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[Noah Yy <noahy57@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 25, 2012 8:51 PM, "Jango" <j.4@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I think the way it is right now is great. Geeks can download their
unstable apk if they wish and users just get updates on the market.

I wasn't thinking of where people get the apk, but where we get bug
reports.  Remember, we're dealing with a whole new beast that eats notes
and kittens alike... putting an imperfect read-only note app on the market
is one thing, but if we put a two-way syncing tomdroid on the market that
corrupts your ubuntu one database (with no easy way to revert it), we might
see a lot of negative reviews pop up.  A beta version would mitigate that;
as I said though, we might get enough bug reports from the lp geeks to
suffice - great response so far.  The problem comes when people don't
report FCs, which a market apk gets around by auto reporting - most fcs can
be fixed just by looking at the stack trace provided by play, in my
experience.

Anyway, I'm not going to push for it; as i said, Mozilla does it, which is
pretty good backing, I think; I just want the best release in the shortest
time.  However that can come about is fine by me.

>
> Olivier Bilodeau <olivier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Re adding maintainers
> >
> >--
> >Olivier Bilodeau <olivier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >On my mobile phone, please excuse my brevity.
> >On Aug 25, 2012 10:01 AM, "NoahY" <noahy57@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>  Understood, but the Launchpad user base is of course far more
limited; I
> >> guess for a Gnu/Linux centric app we get more participation than
usual, but
> >> from what I've seen on Google Play, there is an amazing number of bug
> >> reports in a relatively short amount of time.  That was all I was
thinking,
> >> that it would be a way to do a final stress test before releasing a
stable
> >> version.
> >>
> >> Of course, we could always just release it like the current one as
"use at
> >> own risk" - the Tomdroid on Play is still Beta as well, I guess :)
> >>
> >> On 08/25/2012 06:38 PM, Olivier Bilodeau wrote:
> >>
> >> I would have to check how they do it. Two project names (tomdroid and
> >> tomdroid beta) would fragment the user base and because of the signing
> >> process there are things you can't do. This probably evolved though
like
> >> the rest of android so looking at what others do could be a good thing.
> >> Going beyond and including giving access to maintainers to the play
store
> >> and the keystore (to sign releases).
> >>
> >>  However, installing 3rd party APKs is relatively easy and insuring
beta
> >> testers are of relatively good technical capabilities (signed up on
> >> launchpad) insure we get better reports and we might even ask them to
adb
> >> logcat issues. The error reports from Play are for crashes and it's a
one
> >> way thing, no chance to really interact with the user.
> >>
> >>  Others, what do you think?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM, NoahY <noahy57@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> Just wondering if it might be a good idea at some point to release the
> >>> beta on Google Play, like Mozilla does with Firefox?  As Olivier
probably
> >>> knows, Google collects error data automatically, so we wouldn't have
to
> >>> rely on people posting bugs (except Olivier, who would then have to
post
> >>> them himself...)  Maybe not yet, but at some point I think it would
make
> >>> the bug fixing process go quicker; it would require a separate
package tag
> >>> I guess, but a simple bash script could automate the process I think.
> >>>
> >>> Just a thought, hopefully there are no major bugs left and a stable
> >>> release can come in good time.
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> noahy
> >>>
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> >>
> >>  --
> >> Olivier Bilodeau <olivier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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