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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Den 2016-02-06 kl. 09:30, skrev Nio Wiklund:
> Hi Israel,
> [inline and bottom posting]
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> Den 2016-02-05 kl. 21:09, skrev Israel:
>> Hi Jack,
>> (inlines)
>>
>> On 02/05/2016 10:54 AM, Cinque Port Computers wrote:
>>> Hi Israel,
>>>
>>> Installed into VB and observed the following; all noted previously, I
>>> think.  Getting better.  :)
>>>
>>> 1) OBI progress box still in centre of screen being covered by other
>>> pop-up boxes during install.
>> For me this is not the case.
>> The progress is on the bottom.
>> I am using VB in 16.04
>> Not sure what is causing this issue for you... :(
> 
> In the previous version I had this problem with the progress window, but
> it works correctly for me in this version. I'm testing in my Toshiba (so
> a real computer).
> 
>>> 2) Tick box to confirm final media to install to (pop-up with all the
>>> red in) is not visible but present (I believe Nio has mentioned this
>>> before).
>> True, this is either GTK or Numix bug.  I have not gotten any response
>> on G+ I will try on github
> 
> The modified texts helps getting around this bug.
> 
>>> 3) Tick area for setting keyboard map once installed (in my case from
>>> 'us' to 'gb') is not visible but present.
>> But you now can configure your locale, and does it work persistently??
> 
> Yes, I can use the new feature to configure the locale, and it works,
> but it is very slow to scroll to Swedish with the down arrow. I found no
> quick scroll or hotkey method (page down helped a little). Please advice
> to to manage this window in an efficient way!
> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> JackT.
>>>
>> There is a bug in firstrun, that should be fixed in the upstream.  I
>> will wait to rebuild the baseOS again until we have all the kinks out,
>> as using export XZ_OPT=${XZ_OPT-"-e9"} takes a looooooong time to
>> compress... but it obviously was worth it, as well as the xz compression
>> (instead of gz) for the squashfs.
>> I think this would make the precise version somewhere around 500MiB
>> (since it is the pre systemd version)
> 
> Great that you find an effient compression method and made the iso file
> within CD size :-)
> 
> I think you need a good number-crunching computer for this task. If I
> remember correctly, xz can use only one thread/processor, so you need a
> fast processor.
> 
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards
>>
> 
> -----
> *Most of the issues reported below for the previous iso file are solved*
> -----
> 
> Den 2016-01-30 kl. 23:27, skrev Israel:
>> Hi everyone,
>> this ISO fixes a number of issues.
>> I had a few setbacks with the pae kernel progress, so for now it has the
>> same behavior.
>> Grub is installed with progress, so it is a bit nicer now.
>>
>> ISOhybrid is enabled.
>>
>> It is a bit larger than earlier, but I will soon look into trimming down
>> the live version.  This may mean I cut a few more things, but I *may*
>> see if I can build the ISO as a non-systemd version just to save the
>> extra 90 some odd MB it is adding with all the dependencies.
>> I will check through my build again and see where the most space is
>> coming from.
>>
>> zsync the latest!
>>
> 
> Hi Israel,
> 
> Testing the current debian iso file (and comparing to the previous test)
> 
> Den 2016-01-23 kl. 21:37, skrev Nio Wiklund:
>>
>> Hi Israel and the other developers
>>
>> I have some time now for testing, first in my Toshiba with an Intel i5
>> processor and 4 GB RAM.
>>
>> Live:
>>
>> 1. You forgot to treat the iso file with isohybrid, so I had to do that
>> in order to make it work when flashed with mkusb into a pendrive.
> 
> It is a hybrid iso file now
> 
>> 2. The information about the version according to
>>
>> uname -a
>>
>> is a little confusing (i586 or i686?). It does not handle more than 2 GB
>> RAM well, which indicates a non-pae kernel. I will check it in my IBM
>> Thinkpad with an Intel Pentium M later.
> 
> The following command works in the installed system and might work also
> via chroot:
> 
> sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-pae
> 
> After reboot I get the following response, which make me convinced that
> it works:
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux torios 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3
> (2016-01-17) i686 GNU/Linux
> $ free -m
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:          3929        237       3691         30         18        128
> -/+ buffers/cache:         90       3838
> Swap:         4838          0       4838
> 
> 
>> Installing:
>>
>> 1. At the basic OBI level: The window 'Select device - and continue' is
>> too small (should be wider to accomodate all the text)
> 
> I did not react to this - so I guess it is good now
> 
>> 2. For some reason the SSD drive connected via eSATA is shown twice in
>> this menu (minor bug but confusing).
> 
> I did not react to this - so I guess it is good now
> 
>> 3. There is no box to check in the 'Final warning' window. But you can
>> click on the text 'Check this box ...' - maybe it should be changed to
>> 'Click on this line to get it checked, if you are ready to go'. I think
>> this is a zenity bug (or bad cooperation between zenity and jwm).
> 
> This bug remains, also found by Jack. It might be hard to get fixed.
> 
>> Installed system:
>>
>> 1. Apparmor init failed for me too.
>>
>> 2. A start job is running ... (waiting for 90 s: systemd problem?)
> 
> I did not react to this - so I guess it is good now
> 
>> 3. The tick boxes in ztweaks is missing, you have to click on the white
>> space where it is supposed to be in order to activate it. The same
>> zenity bug as before. In this case it does not work to click on the
>> text, so it is really confusing.
> 
> As I said before, we might skip ztweaks (until this bug can be fixed).
> 
>> 4. The colours of the prompt in the terminal window are not green and red.
> 
> This is a minor bug, but it is still alive.
> 
>> 5. The panel icon for audio is bad, or should I say, the app behind it
>> does not work correctly. I cannot open the mixer. I have to select
>> preferences and show slider, otherwise it is mute. 'Open mixer' just
>> flashes by - does not leave anything open.
> 
> This looks good now
> 
>> 6. The wired network works. I can use ssh. But I have to 'sudo ping'
>> (maybe this is a feature of debian, different from ubuntu).
>>
>> Installing:
>>
>> 1. At the advanced OBI level: The checkbox is missing (the same zenity
>> bug as before).
>> IBM Thinkpad with an Intel Pentium MI did not react to this - so I
> guess it is good now
>> 2. I tried to install the PAE kernel this time. But
>> uname -a
>> and
>> free -m
>> seem to display the same as before. Are you sure that there is a
>> difference - that different kernels are installed?
>>
>> 3. I tried again and installed a third time, (to a third ext4
>> partition), making sure I installed the 'PAE kernel'. This time the
>> installed systems grub did not display the previous versions as lines in
>> the grub menu. But it worked to run
>>
>> sudo update-grub
>>
>> to get them.
>>
>> Still the same result from uname -a and free -m, so I think it is the
>> same kernel all the time.
>>
>> Pentium M:
>>
>> *. The live system and the installed system work in the IBM Thinkpad
>> with an Intel Pentium M, and the the kernel is a non-pae kernel.
>>
>> It seems that we get a non-pae kernel also when we select to install a
>> PAE kernel (in computers allowing it). So [I am almost 100% sure] this
>> is a bug.
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> There are some bugs, but considering the short time you have been
>> converting ToriOS to debian, I think you have done a very good job. Most
>> things work
> 
> The Final Warning window of the advanced OBI level still says
> 
> 'Check this box if ...' but there is no box. Please change the text to
> 
> 'Click on this line ...' or something easy to understand in both cases
> (of the basic and advanced OBI level). Now I think is bad English and
> maybe hard to understand for the basic OBI level.
> 
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
> -----
> 
> * 1. But I found a bug in the OBI-installer *
> 
> It works well to install the PAE kernel. The non-pae kernel is kept, and
> can be booted. Previous operating systems are detected and can be booted
> too.
> 
> It works twice. The first time at the basic OBI level, and once at the
> advanced OBI level. But next time (at the advanced OBI level) I install
> into another ext4 partition, the previous operating systems are not
> detected and will not be available in the grub menu. I tried several
> times, and it just refuses to work. (It makes no difference if I install
> the PAE kernel or not, and no difference if I select autologin or not.)
> 
> As usual the previous operating systems are found when I run
> 
> sudo update-grub
> 
> when booted into the installed system.
> 
> * 2. And I know of a bug in mkusb *
> 
> mkusb can make live-only [USB] drives, but must be changed in order to
> create persistent live drives of ToriOS-debian. I understand that I have
> to do it, but I don't know when there will be enough time for me to
> focus on that programming effort, maybe sooner, maybe later.
> -----

Hi again Israel,

The bug in the OBI-installer (not finding the previous operating
systems) occurs as usual in my Toshiba, when I install into an SSD
connected via USB 3,

http://www.toshiba.se/laptops/satellite-pro/c850/satellite-pro-c850-19w/

-o-

Now I have also tested in a desktop 'cube' with the motherboard

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M2NVM_DVI/

and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+

The same SSD was connected to this computer via eSATA. Here and now the
previous operating systems are detected and can be booted.

So it seems that the bug is limited to cases when the target drive is
connected via USB. As you remember, we discussed the same problem with
the Ubuntu based ToriOS.

Best regards
Nio