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  [f-jack]Could we do xfce?
  Brian Kanto
  As I understand it, the goal is to replace XP.. Though, I do not think the goal is a near duplicate, like zoran, it shoud have some points that make XP users feel comfortable.  Xfce can do this, but it is not that light. I have not used much stuff lighter than Lxde, but I belive open box can be made to look similar and be lighter on the resources. So, I guess, it comes to how light we want it. A few Xp computers, have only 128MB. That would be tough on XP. My friends over at Bodhi, chose enightenment. It is well done, but seemed a bit closed for me. I would love to hear from some openbox experts/
  
  [israeldahl] if we use openbox, there NEEDS to be a GUI to configure the rc.xml file.
  I am thinking specifically of the keyboard.  gdialog/bash could work for this (like Puppy does for JWM)  It might be nice to do an all-in-one sort of configuration window, like the XP control panel.  Or course anyone who is really good at C++ could chime in!
  
  [tausif-0593] I would suggest enlightenment 17/18; e17 is a solid choice
  given that Bodhi linux has a non-pae iso with e17 specifically. I have
  not explored e18 but it definitely seems to be a build on e17 with alot
  of enhancements. But if we do end up with openbox, it would be quite an
  interesting trip given that it is very possible to have nice looking ui.
  
  [Mélodie] Hi, it will be Openbox, at least as long as I dedicate myself
  to make the first ISO(s) which will be available for testing and
  modifying soon.
  
  Ali: I would not want to bring systematic contradiction to you, however,
  if you don't want any component from Lxde I'll be out, because there are
  at least two of them which I have always used, if not a few more.
  
  They are only a few components which are standalone and don't need
  depends. We are not going to invent again the wheel, as they say. Some
  items are very handy and not heavy at all.
  
  The main tool I use in Openbox environments, is one which allows having
  a very easy to use Openbox desktop. It relies precisely on a lib
  provided by the Lxde project. ;)
  
  israeldahl: this is what obconf does. It modifies rc.xml. Other gui
  tools are also available for shortcuts and for menu.xml. They are not
  recent, however it seems they still work. And we would need some new
  tools. I will provide a todo on the mailing list once the first ISO will
  be made available.
  
  One big advantage with Openbox apart from it's lightness and numerous
  available tools provided for it by the community, is that it is quite
  versatile and allows changing to other desktops of your like easily.
  
  [israeldahl]
  Hi, my main concern is the Keyboard Shortcuts.  There is currently no GUI I know of to edit ALL the rc.xml, only the one you spoke of that handles MOST of the xml file.  I agree that Openbox is a great choice, as it can incorporate many different things (tint2, awn, docky, cairo, gnome-panel, xfce panel, and of course lxpanel....) and can be highly customized.
  
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  [Mélodie]
  
  israeldaht: for keyboard shortcuts some tools exist as gui frontend.
  
  http://code.google.com/p/obkey/
  http://lambda.host22.com/?page=keybinder
  
  Almost all the gui tools built around Openbox are aging, not updated,
  and written in different languages, which when used need to install
  depends which will make Openbox less light. In the meanwhile some new
  tools also started to be worked on more recently.
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+ With regard to no cli, will it be easy to be able to switch between boot into cli and gui,  it used to be a case of just editing inittab then the line
+ initdefault:3 for cli or initdefault:5 for gui
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+ Sometimes being able to set things to always boot in to the cli is
+ useful. Maybe there should be a small tool written to do this.

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