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Re: New ISO to test
Hi Israel,
Lubuntu 15.10 is released now, so I can put more focus on ToriOS.
What do you think about
1. the alternate icon
2. the improved way to calculate the swap size?
Best regards
Nio
Den 2015-10-23 kl. 18:20, skrev Israel:
> Hey guys I am uploading a new ISO for you all to test soon, I'll
> announce it on list with a 'user friendly' update info.
>
> I am fairly certain the keyboard configuration issue is fixed.
>
> Also, something cool.
> I made a script to track the update menus progress.... well sort of...
> I basically just look in menu-methods and see how many scripts are there.
> Then, I check for executables, and then check for the ones I shouldn't run.
> then calculate how many items, divide by 100 and then echo out the
> percentage done each time when one is being run.
> It sounds complicated, but it is actually more simple than it seems.
>
> It is a subscript to echo out numbers and run other scripts so zenity
> can track progress. And it works!
>
> So... I know Nio is going to be busy with Lubuntu for a bit, and I am
> busy with this as well as a potential PPC version, though it is going to
> be extremely difficult to do for ToriOS 1.0 I am going to build on
> trusty and try there, as I don't understand yaboot (though you can use
> grub on PPC) anyway... that is the story
>
>
> On 10/22/2015 10:00 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> Hi Jack,
>>
>> It is persistent, for me, in an installed system. I guess also in a
>> persistent live system. At least it was some weeks ago when I developed
>> and tested persistent live systems made with mkusb. ztweaks saves the
>> settings in its own configuration files, and when it is run
>> automatically, those settings are used.
>>
>> But you have to run ztweaks, it is not saved by ToriOS or jwm. If I
>> understand Israel correctly, he would like to change this, in order
>> words let ToriOS do what is done with ztweaks now.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>> Den 2015-10-22 kl. 16:39, skrev Jack Trice:
>>> Hi Nio,
>>>
>>> Can you test whether changing the kbdmap via ztweaks is persistent over
>>> reboots?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> JackT.
>>>
>>> On 22 October 2015 at 15:32, Israel <israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I will reply to everything in this e-mail inline
>>>
>>> On 10/22/2015 08:26 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> > Hi again Jack,
>>> >
>>> > It works for me, with Swedish, se, as well as with British English, gb.
>>> >
>>> > 'setxkbmap -query' finds it, 'layout: gb'.
>>> >
>>> > Have you ticked the ztweaks box for setxkbmap gb? Otherwise it defaults
>>> > to 'us'.
>>> >
>>> > Hi Israel,
>>> >
>>> > The following command line puts it into autostart (should be one line,
>>> > but the mail program cut it into two lines. There is a space instead of
>>> > the line break: ...>ztweaks auto<...)
>>> >
>>> > sed -i '/AUTOSTART/a \ <StartupCommand>ztweaks auto</StartupCommand>'
>>> > .jwmrc
>>> >
>>> > Of course you can also deliver the tarball with that line in .jwmrc from
>>> > the very beginning
>>> >
>>> > <StartupCommand>ztweaks auto</StartupCommand>
>>> >
>>> > Extra comment: For some reason, I cannot use the GUI to add it - it
>>> > disappears, when the window is closed. Please check that the meny 'to
>>> > add commands to autostart' works, and in that case, tell me how to use it.
>>> Yeah, I guess this is a design flaw on my part.
>>> you have to hit the '+' to add it, and then OK
>>> I guess I should make it add the item if something is in there when OK
>>> is hit as well.
>>> I will fix this issue as it is not what the user expects.
>>> Thanks! in my head hitting plus made sense since you could be adding
>>> multiple autostart items.
>>> But both should work.
>>>
>>> > Best regards
>>> > Nio
>>> >
>>> > Den 2015-10-22 kl. 14:27, skrev Jack Trice:
>>> >> Hi Nio, Israel,
>>> >>
>>> >> And I've just noticed now ztweaks is reporting my current setting is
>>> >> 'gb' but setxkbmap -query is returning 'us'.
>>> >>
>>> >> JackT.
>>> Jack, I think the way we used to do this was based on the terminal based
>>> time zone selector that was not dialog based.
>>> I exported the items, and appended them to the user's .profile or
>>> .bashrc and also changed the system time/keyboard etc
>>>
>>> I don't think I changed anything major with that in recent releases, so
>>> this must be an on going issue.
>>>
>>> @Nio
>>> I think instead of using ztweaks auto we should ammend the bashrc or
>>> profile OR even set the system settings, though ztweaks auto could be a
>>> good workaround. The user should not have to reselect the keyboard,
>>> though. Things should 'just work'
>>>
>>> This is something that will take looking into
>>> >> On 22 October 2015 at 13:22, Jack Trice <jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Nio, Israel,
>>> >>
>>> >> I've now used ztweaks to set kbd to 'gb'; reboot; kbd set back to
>>> >> 'us'. I'm thinking this is maybe a regression? This never
>>> occurred
>>> >> when I was not auto-logging-in.
>>> >>
>>> >> JackT.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 22 October 2015 at 13:14, Jack Trice <jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Nio, Israel,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the ztweaks reminder. Upon install, I don't
>>> remember
>>> >> the ztweaks window appearing automagically, so that's
>>> probably
>>> >> why I didn't remember to use it.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm still forming an opinion on those windows and their
>>> >> properties/positions you mentioned in the Live session.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> JackT.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 22 October 2015 at 13:01, Nio Wiklund
>>> <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Jack,
>>> >>
>>> >> This is why I created ztweaks - to set the keyboard.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Israel,
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe we should have an option to put ztweaks into
>>> autostart
>>> >> (in the
>>> >> installed system).
>>> >>
>>> >> 'ztweaks auto' runs with the saved settings without any
>>> >> interaction.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> Nio
>>> >>
>>> >> By the way, Jack,
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you think of the zenity, xterm and gparted
>>> windows
>>> >> always
>>> >> getting to the top in the live system? (I'm not that
>>> fond of
>>> >> it.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> Nio
>>> >>
>>> >> Den 2015-10-22 kl. 12:16, skrev Cinque Port Computers:
>>> >> > Hi again Israel,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Even worse is after choosing 'English - Great
>>> Britain' on login, my
>>> >> > setxkbmap setting is still set to 'us'; I change it
>>> to 'gb' but it
>>> >> > reverts back to 'us' after a reboot.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> > JackT.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > From: jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > To: israel@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx>>;
>>> >> israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> <mailto:israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:israeldahl@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > CC: torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>; jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:jackdtrice@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > Subject: RE: [Torios] New ISO to test
>>> >> > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:38:40 +0100
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi Israel,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Observation: installed system - if I ask the install
>>> >> process to log me
>>> >> > in automatically, my locale and keymap/layout
>>> remain set
>>> >> to US. I
>>> >> > configured/requested all for UK/England/gb etc.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If I choose to have a login screen, the choice is
>>> set to
>>> >> 'English - USA'
>>> >> > but I can then choose the 'English - Great Britain'
>>> option
>>> >> before
>>> >> > logging in.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> > JackT.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> To: torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> From: israel@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:israel@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:20:56 -0500
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Torios] New ISO to test
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi everyone,
>>> >> >> Nio, Jack and I discovered some minor issues
>>> >> >> please rezsync with the latest, as the minor issues
>>> >> should be solved in
>>> >> >> this one.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 10/21/2015 05:57 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On 10/21/2015 12:23 AM, Israel wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Hi ToriOSidores!!
>>> >> >> > Hi all,
>>> >> >> >> We have been working quietly on this current
>>> version
>>> >> of our ISO.
>>> >> >> >> And currently it seems the major bugs are gone.
>>> >> >> >> And that is why we need your help!!! Please
>>> zsync (or
>>> >> download) the
>>> >> >> >> latest ISO.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> If you need the links, here is our Downloads
>>> page on
>>> >> Phill's server
>>> >> >> >> http://phillw.net/isos/torios/
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> The most notable change is the OBI.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> ISSUES:
>>> >> >> >> The installed system loses icons in the Places menu
>>> >> (and elsewhere),
>>> >> >> >> please update your system.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> The final ISO will not have this issue, as I
>>> will be
>>> >> rebuilding the
>>> >> > Base
>>> >> >> >> OS soon. We are interested in you testing the
>>> Live CD
>>> >> version, and
>>> >> >> >> specifically The OBI (a.k.a. Install to Disk)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Thanks for all the hard work. Once 15.10 is
>>> released, I
>>> >> can help with
>>> >> >> > the testing. Now, my hands are so busy as it's
>>> 22-Oct
>>> >> here already and
>>> >> >> > I must finish the pending stuff before releasing
>>> 15.10.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Keep up the great work. I noticed the icon issue but
>>> >> the last update
>>> >> >> > fixed it ;)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Regards
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>
>
Follow ups
References
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New ISO to test
From: Israel, 2015-10-20
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Ali Linx, 2015-10-21
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Israel, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Cinque Port Computers, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Cinque Port Computers, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Nio Wiklund, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Jack Trice, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Jack Trice, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Jack Trice, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Nio Wiklund, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Israel, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Jack Trice, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Nio Wiklund, 2015-10-22
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Re: New ISO to test
From: Israel, 2015-10-23