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[Bug 1447142] Re: systemd: ntpdate is started too soon (before the network)

 

Laurent,

Thank you for your reply.

> I guess that Ubuntu systems with ntp installed would boot a little
faster if ntp was not doing useless work by getting started before the
network is fully up.

That's reasonable, though then this bug should be of low importance I
think, as the impact to users is relatively small.

> Perhaps, but timesyncd is not activated by default.

Ah. I had forgotten before, but now I remember that I was told that
timesyncd is automatically deactivated if ntp is installed.

> While timesyncd is probably a fine alternative to ntp, this is a bug
in ntp and Ubuntu would be a better system with this bug fixed (or ntp
removed and timesyncd activated by default).

Actually ntp isn't installed by default, and thus I believe that
timesyncd is activated by default, but isn't on your system because ntp
is installed.

I accept that prior to Vivid timesyncd wasn't an option, so it was
perfectly reasonable for users to install ntp manually, and then after
upgrade if this is broken then that is a bug.

But I think the breakage is just the suboptimal attempt to sync time at
boot, right? If time with ntp stays synced later without issues, then
I'll set Importance to Low on this basis. If I'm wrong in my
understanding then we can change this.

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Importance: High => Low

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Title:
  systemd: ntpdate is started too soon (before the network)

Status in ntp package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Here is what I see in journalctl:  ntpdate cannot do DNS resolution
  because NetworkManager has not finished configuring the network
  interface.

  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: Can't find host 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> init!
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> update_system_hostname
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info>       interface-parser: parsing file /etc/network/interfaces
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info>       interface-parser: finished parsing file /etc/network/interfaces
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> management mode: unmanaged
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> devices added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.2/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0,
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.2/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0,
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> devices added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:04:00.0/net/eth0,
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:04:00.0/net/eth0, i
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: Can't find host 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> devices added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/lo, iface: lo)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdc [USB JMicron], no ATA CHECK POWER STATUS support, ignoring -n Directive
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: Can't find host 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/lo, iface: lo): no ifupdown configur
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdc [USB JMicron], is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: Can't find host 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> end _init.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdc [USB JMicron], state read from /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD40EZRX_00SPE
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: Can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com: Name or service not known (-2)
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> Loaded plugin ifupdown: (C) 2008 Canonical Ltd.  To report bugs please use the Ne
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdd [USB JMicron], opened
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee ntpdate[1563]: no servers can be used, exiting
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> Loaded plugin keyfile: (c) 2007 - 2013 Red Hat, Inc.  To report bugs please use t
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdd [USB JMicron], WDC WD40EZRX-00SPEB0, S/N:WD-WCC4E0267943, WWN:5-0014ee-25e7069b
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> SCPlugin-Ofono: Acquired D-Bus service com.canonical.NMOfono
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> SCPlugin-Ofono: init!
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> SCPlugin-Ofono: end _init.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> Loaded plugin ofono: (C) 2013 Canonical Ltd.  To report bugs please use the Netwo
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> (25444896) ... get_connections.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> (25444896) ... get_connections (managed=false): return empty list.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> SCPlugin-Ofono: (25249376) ... get_connections.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> SCPlugin-Ofono: (25249376) connections count: 0
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> get unmanaged devices count: 0
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee smartd[1495]: Device: /dev/sdd [USB JMicron], found in smartd database: Western Digital Caviar Green (AF, SATA
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> monitoring kernel firmware directory '/lib/firmware'.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> monitoring ifupdown state file '/run/network/ifstate'.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> rfkill1: found WiFi radio killswitch (at /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.2/000
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee systemd[1]: Stopped LSB: Start NTP daemon.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee systemd[1]: Started Authenticate and Authorize Users to Run Privileged Tasks.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee systemd[1]: Started Accounts Service.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee systemd[1]: Mounted Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee systemd[1]: Started Enable support for additional executable binary formats.
  Apr 21 22:01:13 xeelee NetworkManager[1493]: <info> Loaded device plugin: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/NetworkManager/libnm-device-plugi

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.04
  Package: ntpdate 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu6
  ProcVersionSignature: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/proc/version_signature'
  Uname: Linux 4.0.0-040000-lowlatency x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.17.2-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: KDE
  Date: Wed Apr 22 14:09:08 2015
  SourcePackage: ntp
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to vivid on 2015-04-20 (1 days ago)

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