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[Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@xxxxxxxxx>]

Public bug reported:

The average user cannot tell when they are installing a desktop
environment as a dependency of a package.

Having various desktop environments can reduce system performance
sensibly, as processes from various desktops are running simultaneously
in the background. Moreover the autoremove tool cannot always identify
the dependencies when removing some of those installed packages.

For example if I install the "cortina" package, it takes with it the
GNOME Display Manager and plenty of wallpapers. Then if I uninstall it
and do "sudo apt-get autoremove" those packages are not detected as
unused.

Another example: if I install the "rkward" package plenty of KDE
services, like the Akonadi indexing service, are installed. Then
launching applications in my Inter Core 2 Quad becomes noticeably
slower, because my system is running both GNOME and KDE services
simultaneously.

If I remove rkward and then I perform an autoremove, the system still
stays slow. If I uninstall all the packages in the universe repository,
perform an autoremove, and then reinstall the applications I had, the
system becomes fast again.

The user shall know these potential problems beforehand.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10
Package: apt 1.0.10.2ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-22.27-generic 4.2.6
Uname: Linux 4.2.0-22-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Sun Dec 20 18:54:54 2015
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-11-14 (36 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.10 "Wily Werewolf" - Release amd64 (20151021)
SourcePackage: apt
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: apt (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: aptitude (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: gdebi (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: muon (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: qapt (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New

** Affects: synaptic (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Medium
         Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug wily xenial

** Also affects: aptitude (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: aptitude (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Also affects: synaptic (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: synaptic (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Also affects: muon (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: muon (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Also affects: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Description changed:

  The average user cannot tell when they are installing a desktop
  environment as a dependency of a package.
  
  Having various desktop environments can reduce system performance
  sensibly, as processes from various desktops are running simultaneously
  in the background. Moreover the autoremove tool cannot always identify
  the dependencies when removing some of those installed packages.
  
  For example if I install the "cortina" package, it takes with it the
  GNOME Display Manager and plenty of wallpapers. Then if I uninstall it
- and do "sudo apt-get autoremove" those packages are no longer detected
- as unused.
+ and do "sudo apt-get autoremove" those packages are not detected as
+ unused.
  
  Another example: if I install the "rkward" package plenty of KDE
  services, like the Akonadi indexing service, are installed. Then
  launching applications in my Inter Core 2 Quad becomes noticeably
  slower, because my system is running both GNOME and KDE services
  simultaneously.
  
  If I remove rkward and then I perform an autoremove, the system still
  stays slow. If I uninstall all the packages in the universe repository,
  perform an autoremove, and then reinstall the applications I had, the
  system becomes fast again.
  
  The user shall know these potential problems beforehand.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10
  Package: apt 1.0.10.2ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-22.27-generic 4.2.6
  Uname: Linux 4.2.0-22-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Sun Dec 20 18:54:54 2015
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-11-14 (36 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.10 "Wily Werewolf" - Release amd64 (20151021)
  SourcePackage: apt
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Also affects: gdebi (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: gdebi (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Also affects: qapt (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

** Changed in: qapt (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Tags added: xenial

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1528028

Title:
  The package manager does not report installing a desktop environment
  as a dependency

Status in apt package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in aptitude package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gdebi package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in muon package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in qapt package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in synaptic package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  The average user cannot tell when they are installing a desktop
  environment as a dependency of a package.

  Having various desktop environments can reduce system performance
  sensibly, as processes from various desktops are running
  simultaneously in the background. Moreover the autoremove tool cannot
  always identify the dependencies when removing some of those installed
  packages.

  For example if I install the "cortina" package, it takes with it the
  GNOME Display Manager and plenty of wallpapers. Then if I uninstall it
  and do "sudo apt-get autoremove" those packages are not detected as
  unused.

  Another example: if I install the "rkward" package plenty of KDE
  services, like the Akonadi indexing service, are installed. Then
  launching applications in my Inter Core 2 Quad becomes noticeably
  slower, because my system is running both GNOME and KDE services
  simultaneously.

  If I remove rkward and then I perform an autoremove, the system still
  stays slow. If I uninstall all the packages in the universe
  repository, perform an autoremove, and then reinstall the applications
  I had, the system becomes fast again.

  The user shall know these potential problems beforehand.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10
  Package: apt 1.0.10.2ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-22.27-generic 4.2.6
  Uname: Linux 4.2.0-22-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Sun Dec 20 18:54:54 2015
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-11-14 (36 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.10 "Wily Werewolf" - Release amd64 (20151021)
  SourcePackage: apt
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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