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[J Phani Mahesh <706011@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I should have read the blog post you linked to before posting the
comment. There are no factual errors in the blog post to my knowledge
(I'm no professional cryptographer, just an enthusiast who took a couple
formal courses and tinkered a bit), and the argument is compelling.

My previous comment actually looks silly now, since I talk of "good"
random data that the post disputes. But I stand my ground that using
/dev/urandom for serious business like GPG keys is a bad idea.
/dev/random providess a better guarantee than /dev/urandom regarding the
randomness of data you extract, and many including me are not happy to
give up this guarantee.

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Title:
  gpg --key-gen doesn't have enough entropy and rng-tools install/start
  fails

Status in gnupg package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: gnupg

  Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
  Release:	10.04

  
  If you install gpg and then type: gpg --gen-key, it 'freezes up' during the entropy gathering phase.

  ....
  We need to generate a lot of random bytes. It is a good idea to perform
  some other action (type on the keyboard, move the mouse, utilize the
  disks) during the prime generation; this gives the random number
  generator a better chance to gain enough entropy.

  Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
  the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 278 more bytes)
  ....
  (freeze here)

  I found some reference on the interwebs suggesting to install rng-
  tools so that the rngd daemon can gather more entropy for the system
  because by default cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail has a
  very very low number.

  Thus, installation of rng-tools, fails to start the rngd daemon...

  Setting up rng-tools (2-unofficial-mt.12-1ubuntu3) ...
  Trying to create /dev/hwrng device inode...
  Starting Hardware RNG entropy gatherer daemon: (failed).
  invoke-rc.d: initscript rng-tools, action "start" failed.

  It is then required to do this: echo "HRNGDEVICE=/dev/urandom" >> /etc/default/rng-tools
  and then start rngd: /etc/init.d/rng-tools start

  After this process is done, gpg --gen-key is immediate...

  
  We need to generate a lot of random bytes. It is a good idea to perform
  some other action (type on the keyboard, move the mouse, utilize the
  disks) during the prime generation; this gives the random number
  generator a better chance to gain enough entropy.
  .........+++++
  ...+++++
  We need to generate a lot of random bytes. It is a good idea to perform
  some other action (type on the keyboard, move the mouse, utilize the
  disks) during the prime generation; this gives the random number
  generator a better chance to gain enough entropy.
  +++++
  .+++++

  And cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail has a much higher
  number.

  All in all, I think this process should be simplified by maybe making
  gpg depend on rng-tools. The whole reason why I need to generate a gpg
  key is because I want to sign the .deb debians that I'm creating for
  my repository.

  Thanks for your time.

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