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[Kamilion <Kamilion@xxxxxxxxx>]

I've spent some more time in tracking this down.

If you have a video adapter that is 3D capable and supports KMS, such as
the aforementioned AMD E350 APU, you shouldn't have any issues. IF
you're running some... older hardware, then this might bite you.

Here's the change that made this occur:
http://files.sllabs.com/files/long-term/screenshots/kamikazi/vmware-broken-for-lubuntu-and-this-is-the-culprit-commit.jpg

On march 16th, xserver-xorg-video-all was moved from Depends to
Recommends in the xserver-xorg package.

This bug happens to us for two reasons:
One: lubuntu's seed specifies no-follow-recommends.
Two: We do not have an explicit dependency on xserver-xorg-video-all.

I propose that an explicit dependency is added in either lubuntu's seed,
or in one of the metapackages, to follow suit with the rest of the
crowd. They all have the packages installed, one way or another, and we
are the odd-man-out.

ubuntu-mate seems to have added their explicit dependency in the vivid cycle.
edubuntu had the explicit dependency in utopic, so they never noticed.
Xubuntu does not have no-follow-recommends, so they never noticed.

The others (ubuntu+Unity, kubuntu, etc) are all primarily based on GL
compositors these days, and simply barf on the simple 2D cards that most
of these remaining packages support.

Specifically:
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-trident

MGA is required to support the Matrox G200e-compatible VGA adapter found in Nuvoton and ASPEED baseboard management controllers on various supermicro X8 and X9 series motherboards.
Mach64 is required to support some older supermicro X7-series on-motherboard VGA adapter.
cirrus and trident are required for some emulation environments like qemu.

Most of the pieces of actual hardware that these drivers were built for
are no longer used; but they are old enough to be "the popular virtual
devices to emulate".

I am not sure if these drivers will ever be updated to support DRM or
KMS, or even if it is worth it for them to be changed, with the progress
on wayland+pixman.

This comment is found in several of the seeds, and no longer seems to apply as of the march 16th commit to xserver-xorg.
# this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)

Here is my factual corroboration of the above set of opinions.

[code]
ubuntu@kamikazi-builder:~/seedfinder/seeds$ grep -r "xserver-xorg" | grep -v "xserver-xorg-input" | grep -v "dbg" | grep -v "geode"
edubuntu.utopic/desktop-gnome: * (xserver-xorg-video-all)
edubuntu.vivid/desktop-gnome: * (xserver-xorg-video-all)
kubuntu.utopic/active: * xorg # this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)
kubuntu-active.utopic/active: * xorg # this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)
kubuntu-active.vivid/active: * xorg # this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)
platform.utopic/desktop-common: * xorg # this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)
platform.utopic/installer-gtk: * xserver-xorg-core-udeb
platform.utopic/installer-gtk: * xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-udeb
platform.vivid/desktop-common: * xorg # this includes xserver-xorg->xserver-xorg-{input|video}-* (no need to add specific drivers manually)
platform.vivid/installer-gtk: * xserver-xorg-core-udeb
platform.vivid/installer-gtk: * xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-udeb
ubuntu-mate.vivid/core: * xserver-xorg
ubuntu-mate.vivid/core: * xserver-xorg-video-all

ubuntu@kamikazi-builder:~/seedfinder/seeds$ grep -r "no-follow-recommends"
lubuntu.utopic/STRUCTURE:feature no-follow-recommends
lubuntu.utopic/core: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
lubuntu.utopic/desktop: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
lubuntu.vivid/STRUCTURE:feature no-follow-recommends
lubuntu.vivid/core: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
lubuntu.vivid/desktop: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
platform.utopic/build-essential: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
platform.utopic/required: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
platform.vivid/build-essential: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
platform.vivid/required: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu.utopic/system-image: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu.vivid/system-image: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/STRUCTURE:feature no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/cloudtop: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/core: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/desktop: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/live: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-mate.vivid/live:# 'no-follow-recommends' is used in the seed to prevent the following
ubuntu-mate.vivid/live:== no-follow-recommends hacks ==
ubuntu-mate.vivid/live:# software when 'no-follow-recommends' is used.
ubuntu-touch.utopic/STRUCTURE:feature no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.utopic/sdk-libs: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.utopic/touch: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.utopic/touch-android: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.utopic/touch-core: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.vivid/STRUCTURE:feature no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.vivid/sdk-libs: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.vivid/touch: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.vivid/touch-android: * Feature: no-follow-recommends
ubuntu-touch.vivid/touch-core: * Feature: no-follow-recommends

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1432843

Title:
  Lubuntu failed to boot

Status in X.Org X server:
  Confirmed
Status in lubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in xorg package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  The daily build of Lubuntu "20150316" failed to boot into the live
  session, and fails to install. During the boot session, the Lubuntu
  splash screen appears indicating that Lubuntu was loading. What
  follows next was a blank screen.

  Unfortunately, I cannot sumit the exact version of syslinux since the
  daily build could not boot into an interactive session.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.04
  Package: syslinux 3:6.03~pre18+dfsg-1ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.19.0-7.7-generic 3.19.0
  Uname: Linux 3.19.0-7-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 2.16.2-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Mon Mar 16 17:19:35 2015
  Dependencies:
   gcc-5-base 5-20150228-1ubuntu1
   libc6 2.19-15ubuntu2
   libgcc1 1:5-20150228-1ubuntu1
   mtools 4.0.18-2
   multiarch-support 2.19-15ubuntu2
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-03-05 (11 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" - Alpha i386 (20150303)
  SourcePackage: syslinux
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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