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[Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

** Description changed:

  gtk 2.22, Ubuntu 10.10
  
  1. Click on the volume control to open the sound menu.
  2. Move the pointer diagonally to click on the maximum volume button.
+ <https://launchpadlibrarian.net/42732636/Why_autoexpanding_indicators_are_a_bad_idea.png>
  
  What often happens: The sound menu closes, and the menu next to it opens.
- Screnshot: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/42732636/Why_autoexpanding_indicators_are_a_bad_idea.png
  Screencast: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVUokjAlREs>
  Example in an informal usability test: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PgGbZfR6Vec#t=13m55s>
  
  What should happen: The sound menu stays open.
  
- A solution would be to use a timer for the 'auto-expanding' feature.
+ One solution would be to make the volume slider vertical. But this would
+ not work for other menus (like the Bluetooth menu), and would look
+ awkward with other items in the menu.
  
- From an IRC conversation on this bug:
- "<bratsche> Okay, so gtk+ has something internal called (I think) a stay-up triangle.. but as far as I know, it's only used when dealing with submenus from a menu.
-  But try to envision a menu with several menuitems, and the first menuitem has a submenu with several menuitems.  Your mouse is currently over the top menuitem of the parent menu and the submenu from it is open to the right.
-  Now when you move the mouse toward say the middle of that submenu, you'll probably mouse-over a menuitem below the current one in the parent menu..
-  But there are two things that can keep it from becoming the active menuitem.. a timer, and this stay-up triangle.
- <bratsche> Anyway, we should think about this some.  Indicator icons are small enough that in the case of indicator-sound, going to all the trouble of duplicating this stay-up triangle might be more trouble than it's worth.  Judging by the screenshot in  qense's bug, the stay-up triangle would cover most the majority of the neighboring indicator icon anyway, so maybe a simple timer would be enough."
+ Another solution would be to use a timer for closing the current menu
+ and opening a new one. This is what Windows does for submenus. But it
+ has the drawback of slowing down browsing, which would be worse for top-
+ level menus than for submenus.
  
- Illustration of the invisible triangle for submenus:
- <http://www.quinn.echidna.id.au/Quinn/WWW/HISubtleties/HierarchicalMenus.html>
+ GTK already has a more sophisticated solution for submenus, similar to Mac OS: a triangle based on the corners of the submenu and its parent item, in which there is a much longer delay for closing the submenu and changing the menu selection. <http://www.quinn.echidna.id.au/Quinn/WWW/HISubtleties/HierarchicalMenus.html>
  Discussion of the invisible triangle for submenus in GTK:
  <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2000-May/msg00118.html>
  
- Gtk+ already has triangular bounding boxes for sub-menus.  This code
- should also be applied to the top-level and not just the sub-menus.
+ However, this feature in Gtk+ has been broken since July 2013.
+ <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710388> The code, once
+ fixed, should be applied to menu titles as well.
+ 
+ More information: <http://thomaspark.co/2011/10/making-menus-escapable/>

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/552920

Title:
  Moving diagonally from narrow menu title often opens adjacent menu

Status in One Hundred Papercuts:
  Triaged
Status in Unity:
  Triaged
Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in gtk+3.0 package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in unity package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  gtk 2.22, Ubuntu 10.10

  1. Click on the volume control to open the sound menu.
  2. Move the pointer diagonally to click on the maximum volume button.
  <https://launchpadlibrarian.net/42732636/Why_autoexpanding_indicators_are_a_bad_idea.png>

  What often happens: The sound menu closes, and the menu next to it opens.
  Screencast: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVUokjAlREs>
  Example in an informal usability test: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PgGbZfR6Vec#t=13m55s>

  What should happen: The sound menu stays open.

  One solution would be to make the volume slider vertical. But this
  would not work for other menus (like the Bluetooth menu), and would
  look awkward with other items in the menu.

  Another solution would be to use a timer for closing the current menu
  and opening a new one. This is what Windows does for submenus. But it
  has the drawback of slowing down browsing, which would be worse for
  top-level menus than for submenus.

  GTK already has a more sophisticated solution for submenus, similar to Mac OS: a triangle based on the corners of the submenu and its parent item, in which there is a much longer delay for closing the submenu and changing the menu selection. <http://www.quinn.echidna.id.au/Quinn/WWW/HISubtleties/HierarchicalMenus.html>
  Discussion of the invisible triangle for submenus in GTK:
  <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2000-May/msg00118.html>

  However, this feature in Gtk+ has been broken since July 2013.
  <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710388> The code, once
  fixed, should be applied to menu titles as well.

  More information: <http://thomaspark.co/2011/10/making-menus-
  escapable/>

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