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[Bug 1486341] Re: Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're touching it)

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From: Daniel van Vugt <daniel.van.vugt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:28:03 -0000
Reply-to: Bug 1486341 <1486341@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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** Description changed:

  Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're touching
  it).
+ 
+ I noticed that Unity8 is smooth in some parts and stutters in others.
+ Turns out the smooth parts of Unity8 like the indicators pull-down and
+ app switcher are the parts that don't have to run as clients of the
+ nested server. I also noticed that those stuttering clients (like the
+ dash) of the nested server only stutter while you're touching them. They
+ animate smoothly if you fling them lifting your finger off, but stutter
+ while they have to track your finger.
  
  Turns out the problem is Qt's built-in input resampling introduced in Qt
  5.4 (commit 6dc8f47bb05a8acb3cbcc697e0dc05356a01d4cf). Turning it off in
  the unity8 process (env QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1) fixes the touch
  scrolling smoothness problem for clients like unity8-dash.
  
- I suspected this would be the case. It's possible the Qt resampling implementation doesn't work when nested. That would be unsurprising, having implemented Mir's input resampling I know that can be a problem. Although Mir's input resampling is designed in such a way that performance unaffected by nesting. However the below test case and also:
+ I suspected this would be the case. It's possible the Qt resampling implementation doesn't work when nested. That would be unsurprising, having implemented Mir's input resampling I know that can be a problem. Although Mir's input resampling is designed in such a way that performance is unaffected by nesting. However the below test case and also:
     https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40167
  both suggest that the Qt input resampling introduced by Jolla is causing stuttering, particularly when nested in a situation where the incoming touch events are already throttled...
  
  Measurements from arale:
  
  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log
  
  [1439957791.298680] perf: Scopes: 52.42 FPS, render time 17.90ms, buffer lag 39.37ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957792.303939] perf: Scopes: 54.72 FPS, render time 17.07ms, buffer lag 37.57ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957793.316036] perf: Scopes: 55.33 FPS, render time 16.82ms, buffer lag 36.90ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957794.329848] perf: Scopes: 56.26 FPS, render time 16.21ms, buffer lag 37.69ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957795.335884] perf: Scopes: 52.68 FPS, render time 18.05ms, buffer lag 38.87ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957796.343125] perf: Scopes: 51.63 FPS, render time 18.03ms, buffer lag 40.15ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957797.360229] perf: Scopes: 54.08 FPS, render time 17.41ms, buffer lag 38.04ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957798.370706] perf: Scopes: 54.45 FPS, render time 17.18ms, buffer lag 37.99ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957799.401308] perf: Scopes: 53.39 FPS, render time 17.79ms, buffer lag 37.43ms (3 buffers)
  
  restart unity8 QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1
  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log
  
  [1439957936.543370] perf: Scopes: 59.64 FPS, render time 15.52ms, buffer lag 34.48ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957937.543547] perf: Scopes: 59.00 FPS, render time 16.36ms, buffer lag 34.26ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957938.571699] perf: Scopes: 59.33 FPS, render time 16.26ms, buffer lag 34.22ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957939.572860] perf: Scopes: 59.94 FPS, render time 15.76ms, buffer lag 34.32ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957940.581339] perf: Scopes: 62.50 FPS, render time 14.68ms, buffer lag 33.75ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957941.594696] perf: Scopes: 59.23 FPS, render time 14.81ms, buffer lag 35.83ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957942.597224] perf: Scopes: 61.87 FPS, render time 14.64ms, buffer lag 33.96ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957943.612315] perf: Scopes: 61.08 FPS, render time 14.59ms, buffer lag 34.39ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957944.625835] perf: Scopes: 60.21 FPS, render time 15.79ms, buffer lag 34.28ms (3 buffers)

** Description changed:

  Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're touching
  it).
  
  I noticed that Unity8 is smooth in some parts and stutters in others.
  Turns out the smooth parts of Unity8 like the indicators pull-down and
  app switcher are the parts that don't have to run as clients of the
  nested server. I also noticed that those stuttering clients (like the
  dash) of the nested server only stutter while you're touching them. They
  animate smoothly if you fling them lifting your finger off, but stutter
  while they have to track your finger.
  
  Turns out the problem is Qt's built-in input resampling introduced in Qt
  5.4 (commit 6dc8f47bb05a8acb3cbcc697e0dc05356a01d4cf). Turning it off in
  the unity8 process (env QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1) fixes the touch
  scrolling smoothness problem for clients like unity8-dash.
  
- I suspected this would be the case. It's possible the Qt resampling implementation doesn't work when nested. That would be unsurprising, having implemented Mir's input resampling I know that can be a problem. Although Mir's input resampling is designed in such a way that performance is unaffected by nesting. However the below test case and also:
+ I suspected this would be the case. It's possible the Qt resampling implementation doesn't work when nested. That would be unsurprising, having implemented Mir's input resampling I know that can be a problem. Although Mir's input resampling is designed in such a way that performance is unaffected by nesting. The below test case and also:
     https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40167
  both suggest that the Qt input resampling introduced by Jolla is causing stuttering, particularly when nested in a situation where the incoming touch events are already throttled...
  
  Measurements from arale:
  
  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log
  
  [1439957791.298680] perf: Scopes: 52.42 FPS, render time 17.90ms, buffer lag 39.37ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957792.303939] perf: Scopes: 54.72 FPS, render time 17.07ms, buffer lag 37.57ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957793.316036] perf: Scopes: 55.33 FPS, render time 16.82ms, buffer lag 36.90ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957794.329848] perf: Scopes: 56.26 FPS, render time 16.21ms, buffer lag 37.69ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957795.335884] perf: Scopes: 52.68 FPS, render time 18.05ms, buffer lag 38.87ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957796.343125] perf: Scopes: 51.63 FPS, render time 18.03ms, buffer lag 40.15ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957797.360229] perf: Scopes: 54.08 FPS, render time 17.41ms, buffer lag 38.04ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957798.370706] perf: Scopes: 54.45 FPS, render time 17.18ms, buffer lag 37.99ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957799.401308] perf: Scopes: 53.39 FPS, render time 17.79ms, buffer lag 37.43ms (3 buffers)
  
  restart unity8 QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1
  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log
  
  [1439957936.543370] perf: Scopes: 59.64 FPS, render time 15.52ms, buffer lag 34.48ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957937.543547] perf: Scopes: 59.00 FPS, render time 16.36ms, buffer lag 34.26ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957938.571699] perf: Scopes: 59.33 FPS, render time 16.26ms, buffer lag 34.22ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957939.572860] perf: Scopes: 59.94 FPS, render time 15.76ms, buffer lag 34.32ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957940.581339] perf: Scopes: 62.50 FPS, render time 14.68ms, buffer lag 33.75ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957941.594696] perf: Scopes: 59.23 FPS, render time 14.81ms, buffer lag 35.83ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957942.597224] perf: Scopes: 61.87 FPS, render time 14.64ms, buffer lag 33.96ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957943.612315] perf: Scopes: 61.08 FPS, render time 14.59ms, buffer lag 34.39ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957944.625835] perf: Scopes: 60.21 FPS, render time 15.79ms, buffer lag 34.28ms (3 buffers)

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Title:
  Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're
  touching it)

Status in QtMir:
  New
Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're
  touching it).

  I noticed that Unity8 is smooth in some parts and stutters in others.
  Turns out the smooth parts of Unity8 like the indicators pull-down and
  app switcher are the parts that don't have to run as clients of the
  nested server. I also noticed that those stuttering clients (like the
  dash) of the nested server only stutter while you're touching them.
  They animate smoothly if you fling them lifting your finger off, but
  stutter while they have to track your finger.

  Turns out the problem is Qt's built-in input resampling introduced in
  Qt 5.4 (commit 6dc8f47bb05a8acb3cbcc697e0dc05356a01d4cf). Turning it
  off in the unity8 process (env QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1) fixes the
  touch scrolling smoothness problem for clients like unity8-dash.

  I suspected this would be the case. It's possible the Qt resampling implementation doesn't work when nested. That would be unsurprising, having implemented Mir's input resampling I know that can be a problem. Although Mir's input resampling is designed in such a way that performance is unaffected by nesting. The below test case and also:
     https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40167
  both suggest that the Qt input resampling introduced by Jolla is causing stuttering, particularly when nested in a situation where the incoming touch events are already throttled...

  Measurements from arale:

  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log

  [1439957791.298680] perf: Scopes: 52.42 FPS, render time 17.90ms, buffer lag 39.37ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957792.303939] perf: Scopes: 54.72 FPS, render time 17.07ms, buffer lag 37.57ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957793.316036] perf: Scopes: 55.33 FPS, render time 16.82ms, buffer lag 36.90ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957794.329848] perf: Scopes: 56.26 FPS, render time 16.21ms, buffer lag 37.69ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957795.335884] perf: Scopes: 52.68 FPS, render time 18.05ms, buffer lag 38.87ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957796.343125] perf: Scopes: 51.63 FPS, render time 18.03ms, buffer lag 40.15ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957797.360229] perf: Scopes: 54.08 FPS, render time 17.41ms, buffer lag 38.04ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957798.370706] perf: Scopes: 54.45 FPS, render time 17.18ms, buffer lag 37.99ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957799.401308] perf: Scopes: 53.39 FPS, render time 17.79ms, buffer lag 37.43ms (3 buffers)

  restart unity8 QML_NO_TOUCH_COMPRESSION=1
  restart unity8-dash MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=log
  tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/unity8-dash.log

  [1439957936.543370] perf: Scopes: 59.64 FPS, render time 15.52ms, buffer lag 34.48ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957937.543547] perf: Scopes: 59.00 FPS, render time 16.36ms, buffer lag 34.26ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957938.571699] perf: Scopes: 59.33 FPS, render time 16.26ms, buffer lag 34.22ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957939.572860] perf: Scopes: 59.94 FPS, render time 15.76ms, buffer lag 34.32ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957940.581339] perf: Scopes: 62.50 FPS, render time 14.68ms, buffer lag 33.75ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957941.594696] perf: Scopes: 59.23 FPS, render time 14.81ms, buffer lag 35.83ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957942.597224] perf: Scopes: 61.87 FPS, render time 14.64ms, buffer lag 33.96ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957943.612315] perf: Scopes: 61.08 FPS, render time 14.59ms, buffer lag 34.39ms (3 buffers)
  [1439957944.625835] perf: Scopes: 60.21 FPS, render time 15.79ms, buffer lag 34.28ms (3 buffers)

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[Bug 1486341] [NEW] Touch scrolling is stuttery under Unity8 (but only while you're touching it)
From: Daniel van Vugt, 2015-08-19