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2011/2/14 yitzchak schwarz <s.y.schwarz@xxxxxxxxx>:
> I'm not saying it will be difficult to get into mainstream, I am
> saying it won't be a game-changer, because it is merely a stepping
> stone on the path towards a new and finally mature Ubuntu, very much
> like all the releases so far. 11.10 could be it, I suppose, but I
> don't think there will be enough commercial apps in the USC at the
> time, and it will probably still be missing some features, not to
> mention that it won't be LTS. What will make a game changer release is
> an accumulation of features, polish, and commercial apps. Other great
> contributers are LTS status, the formation of a single, coherent, and
> well defined platform for software development, and backward
> compatibility so that packages that were targeted at the latest and
> greatest a few years ago will work without modification on the latest
> and greatest of today without static bindings. Basically, when all the
> complaints from all users about why there aren't commercial apps or
> why Ubuntu isn't used more broadly are addressed, that's when the
> Linux era will finally start. Even then it will be slow, because Linux
> will be playing catch up with something that's more difficult to
> replace than a browser.
>
> The coverage is good. It tells us the user experience is basically
> already there with maybe some bugs. What's holding it back is that the
> USC hasn't taken off yet, even if it takes off there will be missing
> essential apps that are Mac and Windows only, at least for a while, no
> significant OEM support, and no advertising to the general population.
> IMO Canonical won't break even at least until 12.04, and only then
> will we see new or reinvigorated OEM partnerships and real
> advertising, which will first probably send customers to either a
> Canonical online storefront similar to http://www.google.com/phone or
> directly to OEM website. Only later if sales go well will we start to
> see machines showing up in retail shops. When that happens, the game
> is basically over, unless Apple, Microsoft, or some patent troll wins
> a lawsuit with much fanfare that scares people away for awhile. When
> things reach the point where OEM or Canonical release some good sales
> figures then we will see more software ported or developed for Ubuntu
> and placed in the USC, a move that will create more momentum and make
> Ubuntu more likely to succeed. This also depends a lot on how Ubuntu
> will be marketed. It should not be presented as the solution for
> everyone or everything, but instead be carefully and clearly marketed
> for certain users and certain uses or we will get much disappointment.
>
> I also think that LTS releases should be more clearly and forcefully
> regarded and marketed as the "production version" and normal releases
> as the "development version". This, coupled with a
> backward-compatibility and a proper software development platform will
> make things a lot easier for OEM, developers, and users who care more
> about getting stuff done than the l337 and shiny.
>
> Anyway, that's my thinking as to why 12.04 or any later LTS are the
> most likely candidates to be the game-changing release, though it
> could possibly be a normal release after 12.04 as well.
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, UndiFineD <undifined@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 2011/2/13 yitzchak schwarz <s.y.schwarz@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> No. I think 12.04 will be the release that marks the beginning of
>>> Ubuntu moving into mainstream. All we've seen so far is some flailing
>>> about that lead practically nowhere. However, with a packed app store,
>>> features and user experience up to par with the big boys, and a stable
>>> LTS we should see a steady gain in momentum that will eventually,
>>> after a few years, put Ubuntu in a similar position to that held by
>>> Firefox at around 2006.
>>>
>>> IMO, that is.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, UndiFineD <undifined@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 2011/2/12 Barry Drake <b.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> Hi .... any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning?
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry  It gives a brief but very
>>>>> positive look at Linux.  It advises trying a live-cd and specifically
>>>>> says that Linux is not just for geeks these days.  Great!  That and
>>>>> PCPro in one week!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,                Barry.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team.
>>>>> http://ubuntuadverts.org/
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> YotLD - Year of the Linux desktop ?
>>>>
>>>> hehe great news barry
>>>>
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>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>> Keimpe de Jong
>>>>
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>>
>> While I agree, 11.04 may be difficult to get Ubuntu into the mainstream
>> we should be welcoming every new community member.
>> Seeing the media writing something positive on Linux absolutely helps.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>> Keimpe de Jong
>>
>

Ah, very precise! and a pleasure to read.
yet, still, our work here being done today
will lay the foundations of welcoming new users

One step at a time, moving closer towards bug #1

-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Keimpe de Jong