ubuntu-eg-council team mailing list archive

[Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Ahmed Shams <ahmedkhattabshams@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> SA,
>

WSA

> Here's a brain dump of some issues with our new structure.
> @Toulan: Would you please participate in this.
> Sorry for multi-color/format.
> *
> *
>

Dude my presence is in this team should be for logistical purposes only.
But since you asked my opinion I will answer :D

> *First: About Council:*
> *Elections:*
> * Who can be Nominated to join the council?*
>   A) Any member of ~ubuntu-eg
>   B) Official members of Ubutnu-EG(Membership can be granted through
> preparing application > meeting > Approval or refusal)
>   C) Any member of any of the Focus Groups(Sub-teams)
>   D) Council members are a combination of elected Admins of all FGs.
>

I don't know if I got point D right or not, but if you mean that FGs admins
has to be in the council I have to object. FGs number could be very large
(in the future at least), and we can't resize the council according to the
no. of FGs.

>
> * When Elections should take place each release?(If it will happen each
> release!)*
>   A) A Week before each upcoming release.
>   B) A Week after each release.
>   C) A Week After the release party.(Release party can take place any time
> during the month after the release date).
>
>
I beleive "A" is a good choice.

> * Where to Elect?(Where to create polls to choose council team members)*
>   A) On launchpad polls.
>   B) Outside Launchpad.
>
>
This is what is used in Ubuntu elections, and supposedly it maintains
privacy of the users. Anonymous and It doesn't store their emails or
anything.
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/civs_create.html

> ===============
> *Second: About Focus Groups:*
> A Focus Group is a sub-team of ~ubuntu-eg that will focus on a specific
> job locally.
> * Suggested Focus Groups:*(Do you oppose any of these?)
>   A)*Support.*(to give support though all of our means)
>   B)*Spokespersons.*(It's a workaround, instead of having a council
> member in each spot(i.e. Alex), it has a spokesperson who is trustworthy
> and experienced enough to maintain and build a new spot there. one spot can
> have many spokespersons). It'll help having many hands to help with
> maintaining a community(or a spot), because number of council members
> should be limited, but spokespersons not.
>   C)*Marketing.*(to take what it takes for marketing issues, they will be
> responsible for it)
>   D)*Moderators.*(maintain all of our means, FB page and group, forum,
> IRC channel, linkedin group, G+ page and so on...) responsible for keeping
> it's environment welcoming, friendly and keep it with Ubuntu Code of
> Conduct.
>   E)*Website Maintainers.*(To share efforts and challenges between many
> persons with different minds and experiences).
>
>
This is a good start, but I guess forget financial group or you can have it
integrated with the marketing team if you want. I don't really understand
what you mean by "(To share efforts and challenges between many persons
with different minds and experiences)."

> * Who can join Focus Groups?*
>   A) Anyone.
>   B) Anyone with history in that specific job(to preserve quality) and
> Activity on it.
> *
> *
>

We can consider this like a job. We can have trainees but we need
professionals as well. So anyone interested can join but we need people
with experience in that specific field. It all depends on the nature of the
FG of course and should be handled case by case.

> * How can people join an FG?*
>   A) By Preparing application > Meeting > Approval/refusal.
>   B) By Preparing application(on wiki) > send introduction(of himself) to
> that FG's mailinglist > older members review application > Approval/Refusal
> by council.
>   C) Directly, without any approval process.
>
>
I believe people need to show interest and why do they want to join a
specific FGs. Having a formal process will help achieve this goal, but not
sure if it will have any other implications.

> * Choosing Leaders for FGs?*
>   A) Through Elections inside that FG.
>   B) Through Elections, any ~ubuntu-eg member can vote.
>   C) Designated by council.
>
>
Lets not complicate this. I believe the number of members in a specific FG
will be small. The first one in an FG will most probably assume leadership,
or it can have a flat structure.

> * When leader choosing should happen?*
>   A) A Week after council elections.
>   B) A Week before council elections.
>
> What should we do with all of these questions? ;(
>
>
Regards,
Ahmed Toulan.