On 05/01/14 11:02, Daniel Espinosa
wrote:
I can see, as you decribed before, that Ubuntu GNOME depends
totally on Ubuntu Desktop team, to get its stuff in place, if some
bugs (like LP: #1228765) stops us to complete ship GNOME 3.10,
then we will be halted at the version Unity can or wants to use
because they are focused in their Ubuntu's Desktop and just use
the one technology they need for they goals.
Sure there is some overlap between Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME, but its
certainly not the case that we depend 'totally' on what the ubuntu
desktop team does. This overlap is reducing each cycle. LP: #1228765
is not really specific to Unity, it will affect other DE's that are
metacity/compiz based also.
At some point GNOME, may use/depend on systemd for some of
its functions, if that conflics with Ubuntu goals/features they
will drop or neglet to use any module depending that technology.
Ubuntu is already using many systemd components. Its really only the
systemd init component they are not using.
I've seen Debian devate on what init system to use, discusing
systemd portability or abailavility to all its platforms, that
means GNOME must take care about to have hard dependencies on
modules, if they want to be considered as default desktop
enviroment in Debian or some other distributions not using or
providing the required packages.
I don't see how what init system debian chooses, affects what DE's
can be run.
I love Ubuntu, I've used for a long time now. I think they
provide good hardware support and great community. I love it the
more when it uses GNOME as default, now I just see lot of forks,
patched libraries, and missing hardware tests to other DE
different from Unity one. Then AMD graphic cards will work
better on Unity than in GNOME Shell, for example. This will
prevent Ubuntu GNOME to provide high quality software with good
support from other vendors, until (may be) Red Hat release a
desent version of GNOME Shell for it RHED.
No idea what you are talking about here, graphics drivers are not
specific to Unity.
Why I just can't release a different set of packages from
Ubuntu? They are just for different applications, if we fix the
ones for Ubuntu GNOME we can just release them and Ubuntu just
prevent to use that packages by mark them as "CONFLICT" with
Unity's packages.
That is not how the archives work, essentially to do that requires
forking the packages. Nobody wants to maintain multiple forks of the
same program.
El sáb, 4 de ene 2014 a las 5:27 , Tim
<tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
On 03/01/14 06:53, Erick Brunzell wrote:
Will that possibly be included in the drop to
trusty-proposed? I gave it a go this AM transferring a
large number of files from the hard drive out of a bricked
laptop and the transfer rate was great. I also think it
has a much cleaner layout. I love that they integrated
window management with the other controls because it
reduces vertical screen usage. Great improvements over 3.8
:^)
Hoping to get it uploaded to Trusty, however since its
shared with Ubuntu, depends on getting ubuntu-desktop team
approval.
Lance
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