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Re: [Ubuntugnome-qa] Dumb question about Nautilus 3.10.1

 


On 05/01/14 11:02, Daniel Espinosa wrote:
I can see, as you decribed before, that Ubuntu GNOME depends totally on Ubuntu Desktop team, to get its stuff in place, if some bugs (like LP: #1228765) stops us to complete ship GNOME 3.10, then we will be halted at the version Unity can or wants to use because they are focused in their Ubuntu's Desktop and just use the one technology they need for they goals.
Sure there is some overlap between Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME, but its certainly not the case that we depend 'totally' on what the ubuntu desktop team does. This overlap is reducing each cycle. LP: #1228765 is not really specific to Unity, it will affect other DE's that are metacity/compiz based also.

At some point GNOME, may use/depend on systemd for some of its functions, if that conflics with Ubuntu goals/features they will drop or neglet to use any module depending that technology.
Ubuntu is already using many systemd components. Its really only the systemd init component they are not using.

I've seen Debian devate on what init system to use, discusing systemd portability or abailavility to all its platforms, that means GNOME must take care about to have hard dependencies on modules, if they want to be considered as default desktop enviroment in Debian or some other distributions not using or providing the required packages.
I don't see how what init system debian chooses, affects what DE's can be run.


I love Ubuntu, I've used for a long time now. I think they provide good hardware support and great community. I love it the more when it uses GNOME as default, now I just see lot of forks, patched libraries, and missing hardware tests to other DE different from Unity one. Then AMD graphic cards will work better on Unity than in GNOME Shell, for example. This will prevent Ubuntu GNOME to provide high quality software with good support from other vendors, until (may be) Red Hat release a desent version of GNOME Shell for it RHED.
No idea what you are talking about here, graphics drivers are not specific to Unity.

Why I just can't release a different set of packages from Ubuntu? They are just for different applications, if we fix the ones for Ubuntu GNOME we can just release them and Ubuntu just prevent to use that packages by mark them as "CONFLICT" with Unity's packages.
That is not how the archives work, essentially to do that requires forking the packages. Nobody wants to maintain multiple forks of the same program.

El sáb, 4 de ene 2014 a las 5:27 , Tim <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
On 03/01/14 06:53, Erick Brunzell wrote:
Will that possibly be included in the drop to trusty-proposed? I gave it a go this AM transferring a large number of files from the hard drive out of a bricked laptop and the transfer rate was great. I also think it has a much cleaner layout. I love that they integrated window management with the other controls because it reduces vertical screen usage. Great improvements over 3.8 :^)
Hoping to get it uploaded to Trusty, however since its shared with Ubuntu, depends on getting ubuntu-desktop team approval.
Lance
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