Re: [Ubuntugnome-qa] Testing UG 14.04 in my production machine

["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Fran Dieguez <fran.dieguez@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On sáb 15 feb 2014 18:35:39 CET, Ali/amjjawad wrote:

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Fran Dieguez

<fran.dieguez@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:fran.dieguez@mabishu.com>> wrote:

    Hi everyone,


Hello Fran :)


    today I have upgraded to 14.04 in my daily basis machine, so
    expect to receive bug reports in the coming days (if they exists).


They do indeed exist ;)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0


    For now I can't find anything that doesn't work. All is quite
    stable and the upgrade with "do-release-upgrade" haven't reported
    any error.


That is the problem when someone with experience who has basic
understanding of the system he/she is using + has more than just a
basic understanding of the system (knows how to tweak and solve issues
by his/her own). Such people can't easily find a bug because they used
to fix bugs or know the workaround or how to avoid some known issue.

That is also why newcomers are the best candidate to be testers while
IMHO those with more experience are the best candidate for Bug Triage
[1] :)

I could be wrong though but we had such discussion on the previous
vUDS and I guess I talked about that with Nicholas Skaggs and he
agreed - please don't ask me to prove it :P

What do you think, Fran? do you agree with me?


    Regards.

    --


Thank you for your email!


[1] -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001494.html

P.S.
Keep us updated ;)

Hi Ali,

Hello Fran :)

 

Obviously, I have a more than the average knowledge about how UG works under the hood.

Indeed and I am sure of this ;)

 

But my initial impressions after a couple of days using this development release is that it is one of the most rock solid releases I've been testing.

That indeed what Mark said on his post and he also mentioned Ubuntu GNOME :D

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1314

I'm not surprised. Ubuntu GNOME was rock solid starting from Saucy Alpha until now. This is great to know. However, we can't just depend on this and keep digging deeper and deeper :D

 

Everything is working in my machine (notice that I'm talking about my machine). Keyboard function keys work, Bluetooth, Wireless and wired network, fglrx beta driver with G-S works really fast. All my work environment was not affected, maybe because I mostly relay on vagrant-puppet deployments.

Good to know and it makes us proud of what we do but as mentioned above, we must keep digging :D

 

I completely agree with you that newcomers could find bugs easily because they are not used to the system and they could spot bugs that the rest of people could omit.

Indeed. Glad you agree :D

Which make us (I'm definitely not a GURU nor Expert but obviously know more about the under-hood stuff or at least how to avoid problems) with more experience not really good with testing but with triage more. However, that is definitely does not mean we should not test :D

 

Let me review all the Bug triaging documentation and evaluate if I can do it, and more important if I can reserve some time to do it. Because the most valuated resource I have is time and, sadly, I don't have a lot of it.

Please do whenever you can. We are all volunteers here and everyone has a life and other tasks to do. It is our love and passion for Ubuntu GNOME that keep this project alive and make us give more and more.

It would be great if people start the triage process and the rest could report bugs.

As Tim mentioned previously, everyone within Ubuntu GNOME QA should be involved in both reporting and triage :)

And as I suggested:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001494.html

and
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-February/001562.html

That we could operate in two groups, one for reporting and other for triage.

 

Regards.

Thank you for everything!

Your help and support are highly appreciated :)

 

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amjjawad

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