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[David Maydew <dave.maydew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Kamal,
They've updated the package on Sourceforge.net -
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xastir/
It now says, Xastir199-2010-Aug-01.tgz, so I think this is where Dave
was commenting on.  Don't know what updates, if any have been made?

I'm still running your PPA release without a problem, and have given it
out to other Hams, who have not complained one little bit.

Dave M0DCM

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:09 -0700, Kamal Mostafa wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:38 -0400, David Aitcheson wrote:
> > [...]
> > Kamal has a (NOW OUTDATED) ".deb" file on his launchpad PPA instance
> > that some are using.  (KAMAL HINT HINT  it needs to be updated
> > already!)
> 
> The xastir version in my Ubuntu PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/xastir
> is merely one month old (xastir199-2010-Jul-01.tgz).  How OUTDATED can
> it possibly be, David?  ;-)
> 
> I think we're all in agreement that xastir needs an active Debian
> uploader.  My PPA isn't (shouldn't be) the "preferred" distribution
> method for regular xastir releases.
> 
> Jerry Stueve has made available xastir 1.9.9 packages for Debian --
> those have been awaiting review and upload by a Debian Developer for
> some time now, so I am cc'ing Hamish Moffatt at Debian here also.
> 
> 73 de KA6MAL
> 
>  -Kamal
> 
> 
> 
> >   Check the Xastir Wiki and the Xastir email reflector
> > archive for late breaking tips.
> > 
> > It would be good to get the 2010_August_01 build out to as many as
> > possible as that should solve a lot of the lingering problems.
> > 
> > 73 & Good Luck All
> > Dave - KB3EFS
> > -- 
> > David A Aitcheson
> > david.aitcheson@xxxxxxxxx
> > david.aitcheson on google and skype
> > 
> > Open PGP Key ID: 0x897A0CC0
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> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Scott Evans <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I'm now running Debian sid and the ubuntu howto works just fine, the
> > > only thing I do is to compile the gdal (1.7.2), libgeotiff (1.3.0) and
> > > proj (4.7.0) from source, then no extra config flags are required.
> > > Although I haven't attempted to do this on Debian lenny there may be
> > > some package versions that have different numbers in them, but its not
> > > to hard to figure that out if needed.
> > >
> > > It also appears that the Amateur Radio group for maintaining Debian
> > > packages seems to be a little on the quiet side! if there are any on
> > > this list, I'm interested in helping where I can, as I've recently
> > > become the maintainer for another project.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Evans <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xastir mailing list
> > > Xastir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
> > >
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Xastir and Ubuntu
> > From: Jerry Stueve <K4INT@xxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:40:07 -0400
> > To: Steve Conklin <sconklin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > CC: David Aitcheson <david.aitcheson@xxxxxxxxx>, Kamal Mostafa
> > <kamal@xxxxxxxxxx>, bdale <bdale@xxxxxxx>
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> > On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 15:58 -0500, Steve Conklin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 12:43 -0400, David Aitcheson wrote:
> > Steve,
> > Hi, de Dave KB3EFS.
> > I am trying to get Xastir set up in a PPA of its own or added to the
> > Launchpad Xastir portal.
> > I think that is the best way to move forward and get things more
> > current on a more recurrent basis.
> > What do you think?
> > I am not aware of how to "sign" a gmail email so I am including my
> > Re: Xastir and Ubuntu mailbox:///home/aitch100s76/.thunderbird/7s7rt3t0.de...
> > 1 of 3 08/02/2010 06:04 PM
> > public key below.
> > My key id is 0x897A0CC0
> > My fingerprint is 6E6B 8F72 56EF 32FD 6C64 5F65 37D9 01FC 897A 0CC0
> > 73
> > Dave
> > KB3EFS
> > Don't sweat signing the emails. If you want to do that there are plugins
> > for evolution, thunderbird, and other clients.
> > While setting up a PPA with a daily build isn't hard technically (we do
> > that for upstream kernels in Ubuntu), it brings up some process issues
> > that need to be discussed as part of all this. This may be long, so I
> > apologize in advance.
> > I'm including Kamal Mostafa in the reply because he's prepared the PPA
> > that's now active with the latest xastir, and because he understands
> > Ubuntu and Debian packaging pretty well (better than I do). I'm also
> > including B'dale Garbee because I reference a chat we had, and Gerald
> > Stueve, since his Debian packages for xastir have been languishing.
> > OK, I built a 1.9.9 version for Debian.
> > While setting up a PPA for bleeding edge xastir in Ubuntu seems like a
> > great idea (and might be for developers), we run a real risk of it
> > becoming the defacto xastir delivery channel for Ubuntu. This would be a
> > real problem because it circumvents the desired flow of packages from
> > Upstream (you) to Debian and then on to Ubuntu.
> > Having packages flow through Debian in this way prevents splitting the
> > Debian and Ubuntu communities, keeps versions mostly sync'd, and makes
> > everything easier. It also lets us apply our limited packaging resources
> > in only one place.
> > The real solution to the problem is to have an active Debian maintainer,
> > who can keep the Debian xastir package up to date. Even with a packager,
> > things stall in Debian, and xastir is a really good example of this. In
> > April Gerald Stueve packaged 1.9.8, and it's still sitting and waiting
> > for upload by a Debian Developer.
> > Part of the reason that packages stall in Debian is because they had a
> > very prolific developer and packager (Joop Stakenborg) who recently
> > reduced his involvement in Debian for personal reasons. Some people have
> > stepped up to help with Joop's packages, but he had very big shoes to
> > fill. We are cultivating Debian Maintainers and Debian Developers from
> > within the Ubuntu-hams community, but we can't step in overnight and
> > perform the Debian tasks.
> > I just had a chat with B'dale Garbee, who is a long-time Debian
> > Developer and ham package maintainer. He understands the current
> > Re: Xastir and Ubuntu mailbox:///home/aitch100s76/.thunderbird/7s7rt3t0.de...
> > 2 of 3 08/02/2010 06:04 PM
> > situation, and said that he will upload Debian packages which are
> > prepped by community members, as long as they are simple and obvious
> > things like new upstream versions, and the uploads don't include any
> > controversy over undoing changes or issues like that. He's also
> > available to sponsor people who want to become Debian Maintainers, and
> > help get them upload rights for specific packages.
> > Only patch for Debian geotiff subdirectory for include files.
> > What I propose is this:
> > If Gerald is interested in an ongoing role as the Debian packager for
> > xastir, then he can repackage the latest upstream and contact Bdale in
> > the future for uploads. He could take what Kamal has already done with
> > xastir-1.9.9 or do it over.
> > If Gerald isn't interested in packaging xastir for Debian, I'm willing
> > to take this on and begin working in earnest to become a Debian
> > Maintainer, working with Bdale. I use xastir so I don't mind getting
> > more involved with it (although I am not a power user).
> > If it needs a formal RFS, I will fill one out for tracking.
> > In either case, we should be able to get the latest xastir into both
> > Debian and Ubuntu pretty quickly with this plan.
> > How does that sound to everyone?
> > Now - the question of whether we should have a daily "unstable" build of
> > the tip of upstream in a PPA is a separate one, and we can take that up
> > as needed.
> > Steve AI4QR
> > --
> > Jerry Stueve <K4INT@xxxxxxxx>
> > GPG Fingerprint: 649A D922 01E7 3D72 0170 518F C49B 810C 5A0B 7597
> > 
> 
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