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[Jamin Day <jaminday+ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Alex,

and thankyou for your comments. Please keep in mind that it is still early
days for this project. Most of the available content has not yet been edited
and/or subjected to proper fact-checking, and some of it is likely to change
significantly as the manual approaches it's first release.

Your comments have been noted and those sections will be looked at further
to make sure we are not being inadvertently misleading. We need people to
point out these kinds of things as we go; the more help we get to make sure
the final product is* *both accurate and well-written (and also translated
well), the better.

As for clarity and well-defined purpose - there is some information
available regarding this in the wiki. However, the project will also
continue to be shaped and defined as we proceed. Despite the size of the
wiki it is still a very young document, as is this project in general. Give
it some time and hopefully any concerns you and/or others may have will be
addressed - if not there is always room for more contributors to assist with
this.

Kind regards,

JaminDay

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Alex Lourie <djay.il@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Being a silent listener so far, I'd like to add some comments on the
> subject. I agree with Phil and Mathew - the Ubuntu Manual project as it is
> needs more clarity and well defined purposes. But I took an additional step,
> and looked over some content and translations.
>
> I do not want to diminish the importance of any of these projects. I
> understand their nature, and I do believe they both have a legitemate
> causes. I just expressing my own opinion, and leave it to all the parties to
> think about it, ignore or do anything they like with it. So,
> here it comes:
>
> 1. Some phrasing may be considered not quite correct. Example from
> prologue:
> "Using the Debian operating system as a code base, Shuttleworth built
> Ubuntu" - may be interpreted by a reader as if Mark has built the OS by
> himself (remember, Manual readers know nothing about how Operating Systems
> are created).
>
> 2. Some phrasing in the text would be highly subjective. Who is in the
> position to decide? Example from the prologue:
> "Ubuntu quickly rose to be the most popular Linux distribution, thanks to
> the financial backing from Mark personally --- allowing free CDs to be
> pressed and shipped worldwide at no cost to the end user." - highly
> subjective. I could bring to the table a lot of reasons why did Ubuntu rise
> to the success it has, and free shipping would not be in the first five.
>
> 3. I've taken a look at Russian translations. While only few strings were
> translated, there are already quite obvious mistakes in some, and not high
> quality in others. It requires a good editor to make them great.
>
>
> That said, I'd like to see more of the development in this project to make
> my mind about it.
>
> Alex.
>
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