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-----Original Message-----
From: mario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 23:01:43 
To: <pdickeybeta@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: mario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Screenshot highlighting

If a particular screenshot needs highlighting, Shutter works great, and is made to do exactly what is being discussed.

http://shutter-project.org

-MarioB

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-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Dickey <pdickeybeta@xxxxxxxxx>
Sender: ubuntu-manual-bounces+mario=petrielabs.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:52:47 
To: Andrew Montag<ajmontag@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: pdickeybeta@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: <ubuntu-manual@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Screenshot highlighting

I would say definitely in cases where there are a lot of different
buttons/locations to look at on the screen.  Or in cases where the right
button/location isn't obvious. Something like in Thunderbird, if you
want to point out the Send/Receive button, or a folder.  Or in a
situation where you could re-use screenshots of the same
picture--pointing out different aspects of it. Something like the
Nautilus folder, where you'll want to point out the location of the
favorite places, folder structure, main window pane, and the menu
(global menu).

As for building it into Quickshot, if it won't take a lot of coding (or
try to turn Quickshot into a GIMP replacement), I agree that the
functionality should be put in.  But, if it's going to make Quickshot a
bloated application that does things that other applications can do
better, I would say that we should use applications that are designed
for those tasks.

I'm also looking at the fact that right now, no one's developing
Quickshot, yet we're talking about adding things to it. We really need
to get people working on the application itself, before creating more
work that no one's doing. At least that's my understanding from what
I've read in the previous messages.

Have a great day:)
Patrick.


On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 17:02 -0500, Andrew Montag wrote:
> Hannie and Kevin, 
> 
> 
> Here are some examples of where highlighting may be useful.
> 
> 
> http://ubuntuone.com/1mVxryxD97EPVryco0o9p4
> Here I would need to point out several things: the Files button,
> the More button, and the, Download file button.
> 
> 
> http://ubuntuone.com/1fD5OExwPwLUDAp6i7ddpJ
> This one could use the Share folder button highlighted. 
> 
> 
> Now that I get to looking around at all the screenshots I have taken,
> these are about the only two that could use it, and that's because
> they are shots of the busy web UI. Most shots of the desktop are
> pretty self-explanatory. Maybe poll the authors and see how many shots
> would benefit from highlights. For my section its about 2/10, so
> hardly worth doing. 
> 
> 
> -Andrew
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Montag <ajmontag@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>         On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:44 AM, herat gandhi
>         <heratgandhi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>                 Hello,
>                 I think you want something like this:
>                 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hwe2c3m1hpy3qk/ubuntu-manual.pdf
>                 
>         Yes, that is what I had in mind.  
>         
>         
>         Their's sometimes uses both boxes and arrows, which is a bit
>         cluttered.  (page 20) 
>         The numbering could be useful, but again, may just be more of
>         a clutter. (page 30) 
>         Sometimes they use multiple colors and word-labels. (page 33) 
>         
>         
>         I would recommend NOT using Ubuntu Orange for the highlights,
>         since most screenshots will already contain lots of this
>         color. Red, yellow, or blue may be good choices.  
>         
>         
>          -Andrew  
>         
>         
>                 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tony Pursell
>                 <ajp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>                 
>                         
>                         
>                         On 17 May 2012 08:37, Thorsten Wilms
>                         <t_w_@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
>                                 On 05/16/2012 07:21 PM, Andrew Montag
>                                 wrote:
>                                         I think it may be useful to
>                                         highlight portions of
>                                         screenshots. We could
>                                         put an orange oval around text
>                                         or a button, or maybe blur or
>                                         grey all
>                                         but one section of the
>                                         screenshot to draw the readers
>                                         attention to it.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 One could perhaps differentiate
>                                 between
>                                 - marking an area
>                                  - by framing
>                                  - by modifying everything outside the
>                                 area
>                                    - lower contrast
>                                    - change of brightness
>                                    - discoloration
>                                    - blur
>                                 - pointing to an element
>                                 
>                         
>                         Perhaps some sort of numbering to indicate a
>                         sequence of operations...
>                           
>                                 To highlight things like the
>                                 folder/side-bar of Thunderbird,
>                                 marking the entire area would be
>                                 appropriate.
>                                 
>                                 To highlight a specific icon in the
>                                 Launcher, an arrow could work well.
>                                 
>                                 In all cases, repeating just the area
>                                 of interest in a cropped image, maybe
>                                 scaled down if it is large, placed
>                                 right next to the associated text,
>                                 would be an alternative.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 For all styles that add sharp elements
>                                 on top of the screenshot, using SVG
>                                 should be considered. Ideally the
>                                 vector graphics would stay vector
>                                 graphics in the PDF.
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 The design of 1 or 2 highlighting
>                                 methods should be based on concrete
>                                 needs. Do we have examples where a
>                                 form of highlighting would be of
>                                 advantage?
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 
>                         
>                         Tony 
>                         
>                         
>                         
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