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[Lou Greenwood <lougreenwood@xxxxxx>]

My personal opinion is that it's possible to find a solution which works for all situations, rather than creating fragmentation in the UI by letting individual dev's make too many choices.

> 1. Use the developer’s toolkit

> 

> Here is our handy developer’s toolkit which contains all the essential building blocks to

> help you get started! We use our building blocks to keep our apps consistent, and so we

> don’t carry other platform’s UI elements or behaviours.


> /\ http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/get-started/make-it-ubuntu


I've just uploaded a short clip of the Evernote app on iOS, the way it handles the toolbar is beautifully intuitive and invisible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX1xelZhkEU

Something like this Evernote example (default visible, hides on scroll/interaction, reveals on scroll up), which is  _only_ implemented on deep page stack pages would be my suggestion. As far as I can see from the design spec, no other page types have this 'back' problem. See this link for the various page types > http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/global-patterns/navigation.

Lou








On 13 Jun 2013, at 18:18, Omar B. <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Some apps don't have a problem with users going "back". For example the *Friends* app shows both its Breadcrumbs and the bottom toolbar by default:
> 
> http://youtu.be/Q566IGyVB0o?t=8m36s
> 
> Apps should probably decide if they want to show these toolbars by default (or when one goes deeper in the stack like others mentioned) if its better for their users (and allow users to hide them if they want more screen). I think this approach might be better than trying a "one fits all".
> 
> Regards.
> 
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:02:58 +0100
> > From: mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture
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> > Scott May wrote on 12/06/13 12:33:
> > > 
> > > Yeah I'm a "me too" on the concern that the "back" button is too 
> > > hidden given it's frequent use. Perhaps we won't need "back" so
> > > much in this new environment?
> > 
> > The System Settings design uses deep page stacks -- for example, five
> > levels deep when setting a background picture.
> > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Appearance#Phone>
> > 
> > Discoverability of "Back" is my biggest concern with System Settings
> > right now. In a couple of cases I've specified that the toolbar should
> > be visible all the time: for example, the screen for choosing an area
> > of the background picture. But that's only because the toolbar
> > contains other buttons on those particular screens.
> > 
> > > In any case, with gestures we need to be very mindful of how apps
> > > are going to operate. We don't want to offer a gesture that might
> > > look anything like something you might do in reasonable use of some
> > > app that doesn't exist on this platform yet. Think about about
> > > what you do on the screen when say, using a map, drawing a picture,
> > > moving a piece in a game etc, etc. I think gestures coming in from
> > > the edge are fairly safe, but the main screen area is for the
> > > app...
> > > 
> > > ...
> > 
> > A gesture might be more efficient than revealing the toolbar then
> > tapping Back. But I doubt it would be more discoverable.
> > 
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