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["leon lee" <llrraa@xxxxxx>]

When I say make android dvm available on touch, I mean keep the performance of touch, and make dvm adapted to touch. It means that we will change the framwork of android. this would be much helpful for touch's marketing. 
Don't worry about the "good enough" issue. The competition of app companies is tense. If touch's app performs better, and some of the companies would make use of it, and the others would have to follow up. 
Btw, why do I keep making new thread in the mailist?


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From:  "Josh Leverette"<coder543@xxxxxxxxx>;
Date:  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:58 PM
To:  "leon lee"<llrraa@xxxxxx>; 
Cc:  "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
Subject:  Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue



If you ever want the system to perform smoothly, then we must absolutely never officially support running Android apps on Ubuntu. Additionally, it would be a death sentence for Ubuntu touch. Adding Android app support would crush any chance of Ubuntu ever having good apps. When companies see that their Android app on Ubuntu is "good enough", they will never bother to make an "excellent" version for Ubuntu. But when the only option is excellence, mediocrity is not encouraged. Ubuntu will suffer at first because of this decision, but it will be stronger in the long run as a result. "Delayed gratification" is another way to describe it. 

I agree that making the system smooth is very important, but they are writing a new display server for Ubuntu touch. Until that is finished, most time spent optimizing performance would be wasted. We must wait.
 


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM, leon lee <llrraa@xxxxxx> wrote:
 I still think the most important thing right now for touch is to have a reliable smoth system. For app, in the long term, we should make android dvm available on touch. So we can make use of all the android apps.
 



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 From:  "Josh Leverette"<coder543@xxxxxxxxx>;
Date:  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:45 AM
To:  "leon lee"<llrraa@xxxxxx>; 
 Cc:  "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 

Subject:  Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue
 



For now, features are most important. I hope that they will start fixing performance soon. The design is good. Performance should not be an issue. If it is, that would make me sad. I am confident that they will fix it.
 
Sincerely,
 Josh
 On Jun 19, 2013 8:07 PM, "leon lee" <llrraa@xxxxxx> wrote:
 This would be the major issur of touch. Can we discuss more details? Let's if there's something we can do.




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From:  "Josh Leverette"<coder543@xxxxxxxxx>;
 Date:  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 03:05 AM
To:  "leon lee"<llrraa@xxxxxx>; 
Cc:  "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
 Subject:  Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how do you feel about touch



It is based on Qt5, and Qt5 makes heavy use of GPU acceleration. Right now there are a few performance issues, but I expect that Ubuntu will run very smoothly once finished.
 
 
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, leon <llrraa@xxxxxx> wrote:
 After know the ARCH of android, which is using java as the framework, I feel a little disappointed. That means that with the hardware, android won't be as smooth as IOS, which is on the native framework. 
 From that day, I'm looking forward to a better android. At first, I'm thinking about the combination of android and meego, just like what touch does today. Luckly, I found touch, so I don't need to move a long way to get my goal. 
 Since I don't have a working touch handset, I hope people using touch can share your feeling with me. Would it be faster and smoother with touch than android?  





 



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