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Re: [Design] Page stack back gesture

 

Presumably, to the inbox, which is what happens now on my Android device.


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> However, using a page stack, at least on the phone, makes the most sense
>> in my opinion, because it conveys the hierarchy of the email layout well:
>
>
> There is one major flaw I see straightaway and which has been raised many
> times on this thread: you open an email from a notification, you tap the
> back button, where do you go: inbox or back to the notifications?
>
> Zisu Andrei
>
>
> On 25 June 2013 14:37, Michael Spencer <spencers1993@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  On 06/24/2013 08:35 PM, Josh Leverette wrote:
>>
>> Why do you need a back button at all in the email app? I can actually
>> think of a number of effective implementations that don't require a back
>> button -- not even to return from viewing an email. However, if an app is
>> making such extensive use of the back button, there's nothing stopping the
>> developer from putting their own alternate implementation in.
>>
>>  One reasonable option which requires no tabs.
>>
>>
>> I'm no UI designer, so I was mostly just getting ideas from the Android
>> Gmail app, which I like a lot. However, using a page stack, at least on the
>> phone, makes the most sense in my opinion, because it conveys the hierarchy
>> of the email layout well:
>>
>> account@xxxxxxxxxx
>>     Inbox
>>         Test Message
>>         2nd Message
>>     Drafts
>>         Draft Message
>>     Sent
>>         ...
>>
>> Having a separate tab and using the flat navigation structure doesn't
>> make sense. According to the design documentation, "The user moves between
>> main views of functionality of equal importance." An list of emails and an
>> email don't seem to be equal in importance.
>>
>> In the case of a tablet/desktop version, I would suggest doing something
>> like the Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery app does, and have a side bar with a
>> list of messages, and then a main content view.
>>
>>
>>  The back button is a crutch in most designs, since there is usually an
>> elegant way to avoid it. Sometimes, the back button is necessary, and
>> that's what it is there for. If the back button is extremely pervasive
>> inside of and necessary to an app, then a persistent toolbar (one that
>> doesn't need to be swiped up) could be used while not at the top of the
>> page stack.
>>
>>
>> Why is it a crutch? According to the design documentation, a deep
>> navigation structure should be used to convey a hierarchy, and is one of
>> the three main navigation structures.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *So can we please drop this subject?* Until the day that Ubuntu touch
>> is overrun with back button UIs, the only thing this discussion is getting
>> is old. *75 emails about a back button is just crazy.* Especially when
>> the back button is not going to be used like the one in Android is.
>>
>>
>> I've only been following the last couple emails, but I do think that
>> since the page stack is one of the three main navigation structures, the
>> location and implementation of a back action is quite important.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Spencer - ibeliever.github.io
>>
>> Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
>> - Proverbs 3:5-6
>>
>>
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