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[Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>]

I didn't say linking. Just breaking it up and sending them out. It's the
user's choice. Encrypting it won't make it take up more space necessarily.
If the user wants to send that many messages, they can. In a number of
countries, SMS is unlimited. Here in the United States, all of the
companies essentially gave up on charging for each message. It really is
absolutely free for the cell company, and once one of them started offering
unlimited SMS, none of the others could do any less and be competitive.
Doing an XMPP system would work too, but that requires having a data
connection, which should always be more expensive than SMS, realistically.
I'm fine with it being XMPP, but the advantage of using SMS is that it
works even when you barely have any signal, and SMS is dirt cheap compared
to data, at least here in the United States. I can't speak about the rest
of the world, but SMS as a technology is infinitely cheaper. Whether the
company chooses to charge appropriately, that's up to them.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Linking SMS cost money, you have to pay for every SMS. Also I'm pretty
> sure you only can link up to 4 SMSes.
> However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may
> happen automagically. You have
> already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets
> its limitations?
>
>
> 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Also, I don't see why encrypting SMS would be impossible. You don't send
>> encrypted SMS to people who can't decrypt them. Since we're talking about
>> asymmetric encryption anyways, then the only people *you could even think
>> * *of* sending encrypted SMS to are people for whom you have a public
>> key. If you don't have a public key for a contact, then obviously you have
>> no method of encrypting a message to them. But, more importantly, you can
>> always break up an SMS into multiple SMS as the need arises, so length
>> isn't an issue as long as the user knows how many messages it will form.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, SMS obviously can't do GPG due to character limits - however,
>>> there are dozens of varieties of secure SMS tools currently on Android. It
>>> seems that some variety encryption could be supported by the default client
>>> - much like OTR for Pidgin, etc.
>>> Not that it should default to it - that would be awful. But that it
>>> should be able to have an easy to enable option.
>>>
>>> There's a lot of people world wide mad about security right now - and if
>>> Ubuntu Touch can eventually ship with a good basic set of security options,
>>> it will appeal to people who otherwise might have no reason to use it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can't have GPG on SMS as it can't handle that amount of characters.
>>>> Also it would be stupid
>>>> as no one can't receive GPG/PGP SMS. If this feature is realy wanted on
>>>> Ubuntu to Ubuntu
>>>> then implementing something like iMessage or Hangouts should be done
>>>> using XMPP and bound
>>>> to the Ubuntu One account.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents,
>>>>> we're all thinking about this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written.
>>>>>> Once that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So,
>>>>>> whenever that happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app will
>>>>>>> support gpg or some other standard - and likewise for SMS?
>>>>>>> I know right now it just uses webmail, but I'm sure that's not the
>>>>>>> long term goal
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Mike Bybee
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>     Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Rasmus Eneman
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike Bybee
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>     Josh
>>
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> --
> Rasmus Eneman
>



-- 
Sincerely,
    Josh