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[Gianguido Sorà <gianguidorama@xxxxxxxxx>]

Exactly, in the USA there are unlimited SMS but in other countries there
aren't.
In Italy for example if an operator give 200/month is a great deal.
I think that the XMPP approach is more useful, because (almost) free 3G/4G
data access is more reliable and easy to use.
Il giorno 17/lug/2013 20:57, "Josh Leverette" <coder543@xxxxxxxxx> ha
scritto:

> I didn't say linking. Just breaking it up and sending them out. It's the
> user's choice. Encrypting it won't make it take up more space necessarily.
> If the user wants to send that many messages, they can. In a number of
> countries, SMS is unlimited. Here in the United States, all of the
> companies essentially gave up on charging for each message. It really is
> absolutely free for the cell company, and once one of them started offering
> unlimited SMS, none of the others could do any less and be competitive.
> Doing an XMPP system would work too, but that requires having a data
> connection, which should always be more expensive than SMS, realistically.
> I'm fine with it being XMPP, but the advantage of using SMS is that it
> works even when you barely have any signal, and SMS is dirt cheap compared
> to data, at least here in the United States. I can't speak about the rest
> of the world, but SMS as a technology is infinitely cheaper. Whether the
> company chooses to charge appropriately, that's up to them.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Linking SMS cost money, you have to pay for every SMS. Also I'm pretty
>> sure you only can link up to 4 SMSes.
>> However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may
>> happen automagically. You have
>> already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets
>> its limitations?
>>
>>
>> 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Also, I don't see why encrypting SMS would be impossible. You don't send
>>> encrypted SMS to people who can't decrypt them. Since we're talking about
>>> asymmetric encryption anyways, then the only people *you could even
>>> think* *of* sending encrypted SMS to are people for whom you have a
>>> public key. If you don't have a public key for a contact, then obviously
>>> you have no method of encrypting a message to them. But, more importantly,
>>> you can always break up an SMS into multiple SMS as the need arises, so
>>> length isn't an issue as long as the user knows how many messages it will
>>> form.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, SMS obviously can't do GPG due to character limits - however,
>>>> there are dozens of varieties of secure SMS tools currently on Android. It
>>>> seems that some variety encryption could be supported by the default client
>>>> - much like OTR for Pidgin, etc.
>>>> Not that it should default to it - that would be awful. But that it
>>>> should be able to have an easy to enable option.
>>>>
>>>> There's a lot of people world wide mad about security right now - and
>>>> if Ubuntu Touch can eventually ship with a good basic set of security
>>>> options, it will appeal to people who otherwise might have no reason to use
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can't have GPG on SMS as it can't handle that amount of
>>>>> characters. Also it would be stupid
>>>>> as no one can't receive GPG/PGP SMS. If this feature is realy wanted
>>>>> on Ubuntu to Ubuntu
>>>>> then implementing something like iMessage or Hangouts should be done
>>>>> using XMPP and bound
>>>>> to the Ubuntu One account.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents,
>>>>>> we're all thinking about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written.
>>>>>>> Once that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So,
>>>>>>> whenever that happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.bybee@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app
>>>>>>>> will support gpg or some other standard - and likewise for SMS?
>>>>>>>> I know right now it just uses webmail, but I'm sure that's not the
>>>>>>>> long term goal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mike Bybee
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>     Josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Mike Bybee
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rasmus Eneman
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike Bybee
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>>     Josh
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rasmus Eneman
>>
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> Sincerely,
>     Josh
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