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[Thomas Voß <thomas.voss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> IM and media player are common-sense exceptions, as well.
>
>

I do disagree for two reasons:

  (1.) IM apps running in the background, polling a socket or
something are really difficult over mobile broadband connections. For
that reason, push notification have been put into place on other
mobile platforms and we would need to come up with something similar,
too.

  (2.) Running music playback in a separate background process could
potentially help with DRM-topics, too.

Thomas

> On Friday, July 19, 2013, Mike Bybee wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 07/19/2013 08:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
>>
>> The spec looks very promising.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.voss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> you might be interested in:
>>>
>>>   *
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-add-app-model-and-lifecycle-to-platform-api
>>>   * and the corresponding spec in:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1ij8RtPsR_eYMW3mys8Gu1Y2CVFZpjXdMpdIjIGZ1SCA/edit#
>>>
>>> In summary: We will implement a very strict lifecycle policy, too, and
>>> one that seamlessly adapts and extends to different form-factors.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>   Thomas
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > Hey guys,
>>> >
>>> > What I find interesting in the iPad (I just have one because I need it
>>> > for
>>> > work) and recently in Mac OS Mavericks is their power managent policy.
>>> >
>>> > Put simply, in iOS, except a few very special cases, you applications
>>> > will
>>> > be stopped when they go into background. So the foreground app gets
>>> > full
>>> > reign of both memory and CPU. This also has a very beneficial effect on
>>> > battery life - in Android, apps running in the background still eat
>>> > cputime.
>>> >
>>> > What OS X Mavericks is doing is taking this idea further into a
>>> > noteboook
>>> > environment [1] with their application nap and timer coalescing. You
>>> > really
>>> > only get the most out of your battery.
>>> >
>>> > While this might not totally work in an environment like Ubuntu, would
>>> > it be
>>> > possible to throttle the foreground application and slow down the
>>> > background
>>> > ones?  What would this imply? Is it do-able in the current state of
>>> > Ubuntu
>>> > Phone, or do we need extra things at kernel level?
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/advanced-technologies.html
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>     Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> So, using a common example of an IM client or media player - would we
>> assume that would stay in "unfocused" state? You mention that only core apps
>> can run as background - that would mean it's not a valid state for a normal
>> 3rd party app.
>>
>
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> Zisu Andrei
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