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Re: Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

 

On 07/23/2013 09:21 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
Correction, "The real numbers aren't nearly that optimistic", where "that" refers to your $80,000,000 number. The real numbers aren't nearly /that/ optimistic. They're in the range of $20,000,000 or so for all pledges combined throughout the next month.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:coder543@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    If you look at my graph, the average is significantly skewed by
    the $600 perk. The average slope for the 2nd half of the graph is
    $605.43 per 90 seconds. The real numbers aren't nearly that
    optimistic, which fits with what I said in my earlier emails.


    On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        If that trend holds there will be a total of almost
        80,000,000. Obviously it will have ups and downs, but even
        half that average would reach the goal. Will re-investigate
        GSM's signal strength in my area, as well as data plans.


        Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:coder543@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

            The only number I'm writing down is the total funding
            amount so far at each interval, I'm not writing anything
            down about individual users. I feel like anything more
            than just looking at the total would be kind of sketchy. I
            ran some analysis and out of all of the 90 second periods,
            the most amount of contribution that the project received
            was $18,432 total during one 90 second interval. The
            average so far has been about $2,607 per 90 second interval.


            On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Omar B.
            <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                Nice, thx for recording the data and the graph.

                did you get any data on individuals who may had
                purchased multiple times consecutively? , how many
                each individual got ?

                I Think indiegogo only lets you select one perk even
                if you add more cash to the amount.

                So it wouldn't be a surprise if some made multiple
                purchases consecutively.

                Anyway this will be a crucial week, hope their double
                edge and other perks get mass acceptance.

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                From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:coder543@xxxxxxxxx>
                Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:41:00 -0500

                Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu
                handset)
                To: estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


                Actually, this will probably help. This is the amount
                of funding the project had received over time. The
                data was sampled at a rate of once every 90 seconds.
                You can clearly see the moment when the $600 phone
                option ran out. Calculating the trend line for the
                second half of the graph indicates that the campaign
                will raise about $20,000,000 total over the full
                period of the campaign, which is not enough. I believe
                that this is the reason Canonical introduced the
                Double Edge option a few minutes ago, which might
                boost sales by a little bit more. Hopefully this
                clarifies my point. There lines are very smooth. If a
                company bought 100 units all at once, there would be a
                visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would
                be $60,000 in pledges all at once, which would break
                the monotony of the graph.

                Inline image 1


                On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette
                <coder543@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:coder543@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                    I'm not saying companies /couldn't/ buy from the
                    indiegogo deal. I'm just saying the companies with
                    the money to buy from this fundraiser wouldn't be
                    able to move fast enough to have gotten in on the
                    1st day of sales. Companies move slowly for the
                    most part, and I was watching the sales figures
                    carefully. I've even plotted them on a graph over
                    time as the data has come in, starting at about
                    $1.5million dollars in sales. I should've started
                    the data collection earlier, but I stupidly didn't
                    think to. I watched the number from the start
                    though, even though they weren't being recorded.
                    The rates were constant. There was no bulk
                    purchase done by any one company. If you would
                    like to review my numbers, I can send you the
                    spreadsheet.


                    On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Omar B.
                    <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx
                    <mailto:estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                        >Stores and resellers were not purchasing from
                        indiegogo yesterday. There might have been one
                        or two, but that's simply not what happened.
                        This whole campaign is all about individuals
                        buying these phones. I don't want to see this
                        campaign fail anymore than you do. People will
                        either buy them at $830, or they won't.


                        yes... sure.

                        I didn't see anywhere that said limited one
                        per client.

                        Or that you shouldn't get involved with
                        business reasons in mind and get a bunch of them.

                        There's nothing to lose at the moment, which
                        makes it even better. In fact anyone can come
                        in and buy most of the 35k remaining, I don't
                        think its prohibited.

                        I believe even companies got into the
                        discounted 600 tier and took their share and
                        is why you see 0 in the enterprise tier. Why
                        would you as a company pay 80/160k when you
                        can pay 60/120k right there (Big discount in
                        one go), is a no brainer, they wouldn't
                        survive as companies by being dumb about $,
                        specially on this economy.




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Usually the way these go, you see a big spike towards the end - I expect we'll see the same here.
Just got to get the word out!

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