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[Sam Segers <sam.sgrs@xxxxxxxxx>]

An extension to the dialer that is accessible to app would be nice.
Something like a setting that says "Call with carrier/Call with
Skype/Always ask" when such an app is installed. Also support for
SIP-accounts would do what Greg W asks. This is already included in many
phones, probably yours to.


2013/7/30 Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>

> This is not a simple request, and there is a lot of political reasoning
> that would rather WiFi calling not be possible for the average user. We
> don't have access to the internal pieces of their network required for any
> of us to implement this technology and put them at a disadvantage. T-Mobile
> already has phones that do this anyways, unlocked or not, so they wouldn't
> be at a disadvantage to us even if we hacked their network to support this
> feature.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh
> On Jul 30, 2013 8:35 AM, "Greg W" <mttbrnsmls@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I intended that Cellular vs WiFi antennas would be switched on/off
>> manually. For example, in iOS 7 there is the new Control Panel. It would be
>> a simple manner to swipe up and then tap whatever antenna/s to
>> enable/disable at will. User's choice whether to use Cell/WiFi.
>>
>> I don't use Skype because its security is compromised. [Other
>> communications can be made secure with Red Phone, Silent Circle etc).
>> Although being able to use the same phone number for both Cellular and WiFi
>> would seem important, Apple allows iGadget users to do Facetime-Audio and
>> iMessage solely over WiFi using an email address. I would have already run
>> out and bought an iPhone if Facetime-Audio and iMessage would work across
>> all devices and not just iDevices. Seems like the industry could figure out
>> a way to have the same cellular number work over Cell & WiFi. Then WiFi
>> could be used to call VOIP phones etc.
>>
>> It seems like if the industry got behind this (or Ubuntu Edge is
>> successful & pushes this feature--the industry would have to respond
>> because other phones that don't offer this service would be at a
>> disadvantage). If I look at T-Mobile, none of its WiFi calling phones are
>> unlocked. Couldn't open-source offer a carrier-specific package to download
>> that could add this capability to the phone depending on which carrier it's
>> for?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:13:03 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone
>> feature
>> To: mttbrnsmls@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> WiFi calling can already be done on all existing smartphones (Ubuntu
>> phone not yet included) by 3rd party applications. What you suggest *
>> cannot* be integrated with your carrier unless they choose to build that
>> functionality into the phone as an app. Look into Line2, Skype, Viber, and
>> similar applications. You would have to have a phone number separate from
>> your carrier, and use that as your primary phone number at all times. Republic
>> Wireless <http://www.republicwireless.com/> offers WiFi calling.
>> T-mobile does as well<http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/4g-wireless-broadband-service>.
>> It depends on the phone having special software to allow it to happen...
>> software that Canonical can't build into Ubuntu phone for all carriers, it
>> has to be done by them.
>>
>> Automation of enabling and disabling the cellular antenna could probably
>> be done with a little scripting, but that's of little use to the average
>> person, which is why it isn't available. On Android, this would be
>> remarkably easy to do.
>>
>> Ubuntu Edge isn't even funded yet. Nothing has prevented it from doing
>> anything yet.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Greg W <mttbrnsmls@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> My most desired mobile-phone feature is being able to make and receive
>> calls over a WPA2 secured WiFi network. This is a feature I wish the Ubuntu
>> Edge offered. I'd take WiFi Calling over any other mobile-phone
>> feature/technology.
>>
>> My hope is that one day soon mobile-phone tech can provide Voice over
>> WiFi. I'd like to be able to do the following:
>> -disable the Cellular Antenna when at home/work but have the WiFi antenna
>> enabled.
>> -enable the Cellular Antenna when away from home/work & have WiFi antenna
>> disabled
>>
>> This would remove congestion from cellular networks and also eliminate
>> poor coverage problems within buildings and rural home areas. This is the
>> feature/tech I want more than any other in the mobile-phone market.
>>
>> Are companies working towards providing this feature? Why isn't more
>> being done to bring this capabilitiy to mobile phones? What prevented
>> Ubuntu Edge from offering this feature?
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>     Josh
>>
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