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[Николай Шатохин <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx>]

Third day Ubuntu Edge can't get 1M :'(


2013/7/31 Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx>

> It will have usb otg not full usb host
> On Jul 31, 2013 2:14 PM, "Josh Leverette" <coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Josh
>> On Jul 31, 2013 7:12 AM, "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to plug USB gamepad, USB flash or my custom USB device?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/7/31 Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Host meaning plugging a USB hard drive into the Edge and accessing it?
>>>> That I don't know. Android now suuports this, and Ubuntu Touch being the
>>>> same code as Ubuntu Desktop, I assume it would be able to support this.
>>>>
>>>> The only question are there MHL to female USB connectors?? Anyone know?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Will it have USB host?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/7/30 Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone needs to submit "Tips” to OMG Ubuntu and any other site that
>>>>>> would be interested. Especially if they have already covered an article
>>>>>> about the Edge. Because being announced to support Verizon and Sprint is a
>>>>>> BIG development that will gather mass interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to really hit hard on that this will be the most Network
>>>>>> Versatile device ever built by anyone, much less an independent company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rate of collection of money has slowed :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/7/30 John Kim <johnkim.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Farewell to 3G is more than welcome. Glad Ubuntu edge will be a 4G
>>>>>>>> phone!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>이 씀:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No Problem, I bout fell over when I read it! :-) we really need to
>>>>>>>>> spread the word about this as there are probably ALOT of people that are on
>>>>>>>>> Verizon or Sprint that looked, seen it was most likely was GSM and moved
>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OMG Ububtu needs to cover this with a BIG article and include at
>>>>>>>>> least one if not multiple source stating Verizon will completely switch to
>>>>>>>>> LTE. More recent the better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's astonishing. I thought it would be about 2016 before LTE
>>>>>>>>>> would be used for voice and texting, but apparently Verizon is moving
>>>>>>>>>> things along quite rapidly:
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57591213-94/verizon-says-first-lte-only-phones-to-arrive-in-late-2014/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That says late 2014. This is a short production run of an ultra
>>>>>>>>>> advanced product. A few months early is less than surprising. So yes, this
>>>>>>>>>> sounds like it will work on Verizon. I apologize for being wrong earlier, I
>>>>>>>>>> had no idea that they would roll this out.
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2013 7:05 PM, "Daniel Clem" <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NEW UPDATE!!! The Indiegogo page now states specifically states
>>>>>>>>>>> the Edge will work with "LTE and GSM networks, including Verizon and
>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint” !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Taking it exactly as it reads, that means it will not work on
>>>>>>>>>>> CDMA 3G. But once Verizon's LTE spreads to rural areas, the both voice and
>>>>>>>>>>> data will most likely switch to all LTE and phase out CDMA over a few years
>>>>>>>>>>> until all the (at that point) 3G legacy phones are no longer uses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I deleted the more relevant mail already, so sorry for being
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of order. But we have a GSM phone and account from a pay as you go
>>>>>>>>>>>> company called "Tracfone”. Is this Sim card compatible with?? If so I will
>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely pledge one I have 830 saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Omar B." <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice, thx for recording the data and the graph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did you get any data on individuals who may had purchased
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple times consecutively? , how many each individual got ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Think indiegogo only lets you select one perk even if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> add more cash to the amount.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it wouldn't be a surprise if some made multiple purchases
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consecutively.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway this will be a crucial week, hope their double edge and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other perks get mass acceptance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:41:00 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, this will probably help. This is the amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding the project had received over time. The data was sampled at a rate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of once every 90 seconds. You can clearly see the moment when the $600
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone option ran out. Calculating the trend line for the second half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph indicates that the campaign will raise about $20,000,000 total over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full period of the campaign, which is not enough. I believe that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the reason Canonical introduced the Double Edge option a few minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago, which might boost sales by a little bit more. Hopefully this clarifies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my point. There lines are very smooth. If a company bought 100 units all at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be $60,000 in pledges all at once, which would break the monotony of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the indiegogo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal. I'm just saying the companies with the money to buy from this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundraiser wouldn't be able to move fast enough to have gotten in on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1st day of sales. Companies move slowly for the most part, and I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching the sales figures carefully. I've even plotted them on a graph
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time as the data has come in, starting at about $1.5million dollars in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sales. I should've started the data collection earlier, but I stupidly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't think to. I watched the number from the start though, even though
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they weren't being recorded. The rates were constant. There was no bulk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase done by any one company. If you would like to review my numbers, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can send you the spreadsheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Omar B. <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. There might have been one or two, but that's simply not what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened. This whole campaign is all about individuals buying these phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to see this campaign fail anymore than you do. People will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either buy them at $830, or they won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes... sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't see anywhere that said limited one per client.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or that you shouldn't get involved with business reasons in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind and get a bunch of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing to lose at the moment, which makes it even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better. In fact anyone can come in and buy most of the 35k
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining, I don't think its prohibited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe even companies got into the discounted 600 tier and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> took their share and is why you see 0 in the enterprise tier. Why would you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a company pay 80/160k when you can pay 60/120k right there (Big discount
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one go), is a no brainer, they wouldn't survive as companies by being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb about $, specially on this economy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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