← Back to team overview

ubuntu-phone team mailing list archive

Re: Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

 

Wow, funding has slowed considerably. Is 22 days ample time to raise $24 million? Let's hope so. 

"Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx>이 씀:
>Third day Ubuntu Edge can't get 1M :'(
>
>
>2013/7/31 Rasmus Eneman <Rasmus@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> It will have usb otg not full usb host
>> On Jul 31, 2013 2:14 PM, "Josh Leverette" <coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Josh
>>> On Jul 31, 2013 7:12 AM, "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to plug USB gamepad, USB flash or my custom USB
>device?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/7/31 Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> Host meaning plugging a USB hard drive into the Edge and accessing
>it?
>>>>> That I don't know. Android now suuports this, and Ubuntu Touch
>being the
>>>>> same code as Ubuntu Desktop, I assume it would be able to support
>this.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only question are there MHL to female USB connectors?? Anyone
>know?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will it have USB host?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/7/30 Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone needs to submit "Tips” to OMG Ubuntu and any other site
>that
>>>>>>> would be interested. Especially if they have already covered an
>article
>>>>>>> about the Edge. Because being announced to support Verizon and
>Sprint is a
>>>>>>> BIG development that will gather mass interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to really hit hard on that this will be the most Network
>>>>>>> Versatile device ever built by anyone, much less an independent
>company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Николай Шатохин" <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rate of collection of money has slowed :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/7/30 John Kim <johnkim.ubuntu@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Farewell to 3G is more than welcome. Glad Ubuntu edge will be
>a 4G
>>>>>>>>> phone!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>이 씀:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No Problem, I bout fell over when I read it! :-) we really
>need to
>>>>>>>>>> spread the word about this as there are probably ALOT of
>people that are on
>>>>>>>>>> Verizon or Sprint that looked, seen it was most likely was
>GSM and moved
>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OMG Ububtu needs to cover this with a BIG article and include
>at
>>>>>>>>>> least one if not multiple source stating Verizon will
>completely switch to
>>>>>>>>>> LTE. More recent the better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's astonishing. I thought it would be about 2016 before
>LTE
>>>>>>>>>>> would be used for voice and texting, but apparently Verizon
>is moving
>>>>>>>>>>> things along quite rapidly:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57591213-94/verizon-says-first-lte-only-phones-to-arrive-in-late-2014/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That says late 2014. This is a short production run of an
>ultra
>>>>>>>>>>> advanced product. A few months early is less than
>surprising. So yes, this
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like it will work on Verizon. I apologize for being
>wrong earlier, I
>>>>>>>>>>> had no idea that they would roll this out.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2013 7:05 PM, "Daniel Clem" <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW UPDATE!!! The Indiegogo page now states specifically
>states
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Edge will work with "LTE and GSM networks, including
>Verizon and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint” !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking it exactly as it reads, that means it will not work
>on
>>>>>>>>>>>> CDMA 3G. But once Verizon's LTE spreads to rural areas, the
>both voice and
>>>>>>>>>>>> data will most likely switch to all LTE and phase out CDMA
>over a few years
>>>>>>>>>>>> until all the (at that point) 3G legacy phones are no
>longer uses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Clem <clem11388@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I deleted the more relevant mail already, so sorry for
>being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of order. But we have a GSM phone and account from a
>pay as you go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called "Tracfone”. Is this Sim card compatible
>with?? If so I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely pledge one I have 830 saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Omar B." <estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice, thx for recording the data and the graph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did you get any data on individuals who may had purchased
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple times consecutively? , how many each individual
>got ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Think indiegogo only lets you select one perk even if
>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add more cash to the amount.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it wouldn't be a surprise if some made multiple
>purchases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consecutively.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway this will be a crucial week, hope their double
>edge and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other perks get mass acceptance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:41:00 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu
>handset)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, this will probably help. This is the amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding the project had received over time. The data was
>sampled at a rate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of once every 90 seconds. You can clearly see the moment
>when the $600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone option ran out. Calculating the trend line for the
>second half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph indicates that the campaign will raise about
>$20,000,000 total over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full period of the campaign, which is not enough. I
>believe that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the reason Canonical introduced the Double Edge option
>a few minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago, which might boost sales by a little bit more.
>Hopefully this clarifies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my point. There lines are very smooth. If a company
>bought 100 units all at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my
>opinion. That would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be $60,000 in pledges all at once, which would break the
>monotony of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coder543@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the
>indiegogo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal. I'm just saying the companies with the money to buy
>from this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundraiser wouldn't be able to move fast enough to have
>gotten in on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1st day of sales. Companies move slowly for the most
>part, and I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching the sales figures carefully. I've even plotted
>them on a graph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time as the data has come in, starting at about
>$1.5million dollars in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sales. I should've started the data collection earlier,
>but I stupidly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't think to. I watched the number from the start
>though, even though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they weren't being recorded. The rates were constant.
>There was no bulk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase done by any one company. If you would like to
>review my numbers, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can send you the spreadsheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Omar B. <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estelar57@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. There might have been one or two, but that's
>simply not what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened. This whole campaign is all about individuals
>buying these phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to see this campaign fail anymore than you
>do. People will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either buy them at $830, or they won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes... sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't see anywhere that said limited one per client.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or that you shouldn't get involved with business reasons
>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind and get a bunch of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing to lose at the moment, which makes it
>even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better. In fact anyone can come in and buy most of the
>35k
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining, I don't think its prohibited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe even companies got into the discounted 600 tier
>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took their share and is why you see 0 in the enterprise
>tier. Why would you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a company pay 80/160k when you can pay 60/120k right
>there (Big discount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one go), is a no brainer, they wouldn't survive as
>companies by being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb about $, specially on this economy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>brevity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>> Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>
>>>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>-- 
>Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>Post to     : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Follow ups

References