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[Fola Dawodu <folabiklan@xxxxxxxxx>]

Let me get this straight.

For v 1:
The system has services which do work in the background and can be
'adopted' by any other app to enable "working in the background"?

If this is accurate i dont see what the problem is!!
 On 14 Aug 2013 15:48, "Thomas Voß" <thomas.voss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
> <roberto.colistete@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu:
> >
> >> Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as developers
> >> would want their app to be running all the time so he will abuse this,
> and
> >> we end up having all the things running all the time and the enduser
> gets
> >> bad performance, battery life and overall bad experience.
> >
> >
> >     Well, Ubuntu Touch is said by Canonical to enable convergence of
> > devices, e.g., a smartphone which becomes a PC by connecting a monitor
> (by
> > cable), mouse and keyboard (by Bluetooth).
> >
>
> Sure, see my comment on adjusting the lifecycle policy below.
>
> >     Let us remember that a notebook user with Linux, Mac OS and Windows
> has
> > real multitasking. The user is responsible for opening and closing
> > softwares, if some open software has heavy load and waste battery life
> fast
> > as hell, it is up to the user decide if it will remain open or be closed.
> > Sometimes the user really needs to run a 6 thread calculation for 30
> minutes
> > on a quad-core notebook. Conclusion : user has freedom.
> >
>
> Again: We can dynamically switch to a different lifecycle policy if
> the phone is docked or charging.
> A phone is a different form factor and usage scenario than a normal
> desktop PC and thus, the lifecycle policy is different, too. In the
> end, we want the Ubuntu Touch to be used by people who potentially
> don't even own a laptop or a desktop computer.
>
> >     So, all of a sudden, desktop and notebook users when switch to a
> > smartphone can't be responsible anymore to decide which softwares should
> > remain open or be closed ?
> >
>
> That's an interesting way to put it: Let's phrase it this way: Users
> do not need to care, the state of an app is completely transparent to
> them.
>
> >     Psion Epoc 32 users (from 11-16 years ago) have real preemptive
> > multitasking on pocket computers with 16MB of RAM, some users have
> devices
> > which lasted 5 years without rebooting, without the system closing
> softwares
> > by itself. Even also using my Psion Revo+ for developing
> > (editing/compiling/testing) on device, it remained 2 years without
> > rebooting. Not a bad experience at all.
> >
>
> Well, we are doing preemptive multi-tasking, too. We just reserve the
> right to aggressively take away resources from non-focused
> applications.
>
> >     IMHO, It is a joke to have in 2013 quad core & 2GB RAM smartphones
> with
> > not real multitasking.
> >
> >     I can say that a lot of future Ubuntu Touch users expect to have
> almost
> > all features of Ubuntu for PC's, including real multitasking. They are
> fed
> > up of Android, iOS and Windows Phone limitations. So don't let Ubuntu
> Touch
> > repeat these limitations.
> >
> >
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