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[Roberto Alsina <roberto.alsina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 14 October 2013 22:40, Roberto Alsina <roberto.alsina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14 October 2013 22:20, Martin Albisetti <argentina@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> It's to make the device suck more.
> >> >>
> >> >> If Google or Apple can release sucky devices why not Canonical?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for your valuable contribution to the conversation.
> >> >
> >>
> >> srsly, I want my favourite apps to converge to my flash drive, not an
> >> online account.
> >>
> >> I do have and will continue to have in the forseeable future devices
> >> that are not always online and for those apps in my ubuntu one account
> >> are next to useless.
> >>
> >
> >
> > You seem to have completely misunderstood the issue and the feature being
> > discussed.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I faced this "feature" on Android and it really sucks. It turns my
> >> Android device to completely useless piece of junk. I hoped that I
> >> could improve on that by installing Ubuntu but now I see that I have
> >> to look elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > I wonder how a button saying "install here the same apps I have in <this
> > other device>"
> > would make a device a piece of junk, though.
>
> It will if the cost of the button is that for installing an app I have
> to be online and logged in to my account with the device I am
> installing to.


The applications are where the application developers make them available.
There is nothing stopping anyone from downloading a bunch of click files and
installing them manually.


> There is no straightforward way of downloading "free"
> Android applications unless you connect to Google Store with the
> device you are going to install to.


Of course there is. There are at least two dozen alternative "app stores"
[1] and
you can always sideload apks from wherever you get them.



> Even if manufacturer of the device
> did not receive whatever certification is required to ship Google
> Store app in their official ROM. Or your device does not have the
> right connectivity features to come online when you want to install an
> app.
>

And again, there is nothing stopping you from manually installing click
apps
you have copies of. Just because there is an easier way, it doesn't mean
your way is not possible, or even harder than expected.


>
> As I understand it the Ubuntu One store is a clone of this
> functionality with all the limitations included.
>

It's not called that. Not sure it even has an official name.


>
> Oh yeah, I am sure that Ubuntu Touch devices will always have the
> store app and will come with WiFi, 3G, metallic and fiber ethernet,
> all sorts of microwave links and satellite links and whatever else is
> ever needed to connect a device to the net and none of the hardware
> and drivers will ever be even slightly deficient.
>
>
Sarcasm is useless if what you want is to know what's happening and how it
affects you.