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[Paul Larson <paul.larson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Do we have a clearly documented "acceptance criteria" for promoting an
image? It seems to me that would help avoid some of the  ambiguity in
situations like these.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Rick Spencer
<rick.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree with Jamie on this one.  A music player on a phone or tablet is a
> pretty critical app, and this bug would make it not annoying, but unusable
> in most situations. I'd be surprised if we thought that the image was good
> enough to promote with such a regression, especially before we understand
> the source of the regression.
>
> Cheers, Rick
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Jamie Strandboge <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 03/20/2014 06:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote:
>> > Le 20/03/2014 12:11, Dave Morley a écrit :
>> >> On 20/03/14 06:51, Didier Roche wrote:
>> >>> Le 19/03/2014 23:54, Victor Thompson a écrit :
>> >>>> Could we hold off on promoting the image until this bug is resolved
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306
>> >>>> I believe it should be a blocker since it affects the lifecycle of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> music-app.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Victor
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll let QA decides if this is a blocker or not.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, from what I foresee, I wouldn't advise to block on that as:
>> >>> - there was no automated test for it (and thanks for your branch with
>> >>> the test, that will be guarded now! ;))
>> >>> - it wasn't part of the daily dogfooding until now, so we couldn't
>> >>> ensure this was working for every images (maybe it should as well?)
>> >>> - the impact is smaller than the risk of waiting any longer for a
>> >>> promotion and holding off other transitions that are piling up.
>> >>>
>> >>> We'll have to wait a little bit anyway for the other blockers to be
>> >>> settled down, so there is still time for the whole community to work
>> >>> on
>> >>> that bug if any solution is found before QA vetoed or +1 this piece of
>> >>> advise.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Didier
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I consider this a minor issue and not a blocker. It is annoying but the
>> >> community team behind the app are pretty responsive. There is a bug in
>> >> place for it and Alan informs us that the team are aware of the bug so
>> >> it should be dealt with shortly.
>> >>
>> >> Also because it is a click app the change can land at any time once
>> >> there is a fix in place and it isn't bound by the image rules of some
>> >> of
>> >> the application.
>> >>
>> >
>> > +1, Not a blocker for QA. For the reasons stated above and essentially
>> > because,
>> > from an image perspective, the impact of this issue, while annoying for
>> > the
>> > users of the music-app, is limited and it would block other transitions.
>> >
>> I'm not saying this should be a blocker, but it would be nice if someone
>> said
>> they were looking at the issue while it is declared as a non-blocker. I've
>> not
>> looked at it, but my limited understanding of the description and the fact
>> that
>> one of the music-app developers believes this is not a bug in the
>> music-app
>> suggests this is an issue in the platform itself. Not to mention, it is
>> installed be default on the images.
>>
>> Speaking as a dogfooder who uses the phone (and the music-app) every day,
>> it
>> seems like this has the potential to turn into another terminal-app
>> situation
>> where it was broken but declared a non-blocker, only to have months go by
>> without a fix. Letting this through without someone actively looking at it
>> would
>> be disappointing.
>>
>> 2 cents
>>
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>> Jamie Strandboge                 http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>
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