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[Victor Thompson <victor.thompson@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mar 21, 2014 4:13 AM, "Colin Watson" <cjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:45:14PM -0500, Victor Thompson wrote:
> > Colin Watson wrote:
> > > Given the choice, which is better: to have slightly more frequent
> > > breakage, but have key engineers be fresh and able to work on urgent
> > > problems that come their way every so often; or to have our key
> > > engineers concentrate hard every day to make sure as few regressions
as
> > > possible slip in, at the cost that when difficult problems show up
> > > they're too tired and demotivated to deal with them properly?  I'm
> > > worried that risk aversion means we tend to aim for the latter.
> >
> > Frequent breakages that get put on a "list" while the project moves
> > forward is exactly why the Terminal app had the backspace/enter
> > regression for months.
>
> I didn't say that bugs like that should be put on the shelf and ignored.
> What I said was that management should absolutely be making sure that
> the right people are working on that sort of thing, but without blocking
> dozens of other engineers until it's done.
>
> The probability of changes to the base system interfering in any
> significant way with somebody's ability to sort out a core-app-level bug
> like this is negligible.
>
> > There are two paths to take right now for the music app bug:
> >   1. Wait for the upstream QtMultimedia bug to be fixed [1]
> >   2. Move aggressively towards the Media Hub component with playlist
support
> >
> > Given that the project's need to push features to the QA supported
> > channel (I'm not convinced that most dogfooders are on the
> > non-proposed channel anyway), I suggest we avoid the upstream battle
> > and move towards integrating the Media Hub as quickly as possible.
>
> I hope you're not suggesting that we stop the line until media-hub is
> ready.  I've got no problem with the media-hub direction (indeed I
> approved its feature freeze exception bug 1290360 recently); but from
> the landing point of view it is a significant and large new chunk of
> work.  It could easily take some time to stabilise in its own right.

I'm only suggesting direction to resolve the situation at hand. I have no
desire to hold the platform hostige in the meantime.

Victor

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> Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx]
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