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[Zsombor Egri <zsombor.egri@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> hi,
> Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2014, 12:29 -0600 schrieb Leo Arias:
> > There's some info about the rationale of this change here:
> > http://design.canonical.com/2014/03/new-apps-header/
> >
> > "There's only one place where you can place the back, and that's the
> > top left slot. According to our interface values, that's a place where
> > user has to intentionally stretch the finger and make an effort to
> > trigger."
> >
> oh thanks so much, finally some constructive answer with some info ...
>
> Though I sadly have to disagree, when I try to reach that button there
> are still about 2cm missing for me no matter how much I stretch ... if I
> then slide the bottom right corner of the phone slightly down in my palm
> to actually reach it, the only stabilization that kept the phone from
> dropping is actually gone and it slides off my palm ... try it, I had
> that happen to me a few times today (with the phone twice dropping on
> the floor, which is no fun with the glassy N4)
>


It is well known that any device having display bigger than 4" requires two
hands to operate, to reach the top-edges properly. If the back button is in
the bottom somewhere, in a place easily reachable with one hand, there will
always be something on the top you can reach only by using two hands. Of
course it all depends what is that action you need to reach and how more
often you need to do that than the back action.

>
> >
> > So it's not untested or unintended behavior, you are just
> > experimenting what the designers wanted. I think that the intention of
> > the new header design is to place all the important items on the
> > right, so you won't have to go to that left corner often, but not all
> > the apps have been updated to follow the new principles. I'm not sure
> > about this, it would be nice to get a reply from the design team.
> yes, I was hoping to get one when I added [Design] to the subject ...
>
> >
> > Maybe this is one of those changes that annoy some old users, but
> > benefit the majority of the new-comers? I don't know. Visually and in
> > the paper, I like this change and it makes sense to me. But I will
> > have to change the way I use my phone, that's annoying, I agree with
> > you. I'll give it a try this week to see if I get used to it, or just
> > end up losing my cuddliness too :)
>
> I totally don't mind to try out new UI behavior and I'm usually not that
> opinionated and grumpy about any changes, but I am using my own N4 for
> dogfooding here and I already broke one before. After dropping it twice
> today when trying to get out of the grooveshark scope while testing and
> knowing that the plan is to have *all* apps being used like this I
> simply got quite unhappy. It might look shiny on paper but does not work
> on devices above 4" without risking to drop your phone ... and we will
> up to now only support and ship phones that are way larger.
>
> Probably the button could move to the right even though that is not as
> visually attractive as the left position.
>
> ciao
>         oli
>
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