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[Alexander Sack <asac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Kevin Gunn <kevin.gunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Colin Watson <cjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> For the plan to deliver the phone RTM from a derived "ubuntu-rtm"
>> distribution, we'll need to use a different set of silo PPAs, since PPAs
>> are attached to a particular distribution (which is clearer now that the
>> PPA URL format has been changed to include the distribution name).
>> Although there are a few remaining bits, Launchpad has mostly now been
>> extended to cope with non-Ubuntu PPAs, and it's time to think about how
>> we're going to handle this in CI Train.
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>> We probably just want to create another 20 silos for ubuntu-rtm once it
>> exists.  The open questions are how to refer to them, and how to arrange
>> to land things in them.  In the remainder of this mail I will refer to
>> PPAs consistently using their new ~OWNER/DISTRIBUTION/NAME scheme in an
>> attempt to minimise confusion.
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>> Note that Didier indicated in
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-June/002898.html
>> that he thought the changes to cupstream2distro itself would be pretty
>> straightforward.  I agree, for what it's worth.
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>>  * Names?  The current scheme is
>>    ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/landing-{000..020}, with 000 being a
>>    test silo.  We could use
>>    ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu-rtm/landing-{021..040} to avoid having
>>    to invent a new naming scheme.  However, this is sort of non-obvious
>>    to the uninitiated, it doesn't give us a nice space for a test silo,
>>    and it cuts off further expansion of the ubuntu silos in case we need
>>    that.  Could we use
>>    ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu-rtm/landing-{000..020}?  Launchpad will
>>    permit this (PPAs are unique up to owner/distribution/name), so the
>>    only question is whether this is clear enough.
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>>  * How do we refer to these informally?  Right now people say "silo 1"
>>    etc.  Perhaps "silo RTM-1"?  I think it ought to be made clear when
>>    you're landing something in the more tightly-controlled RTM archive.
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> somewhat dependent on the naming above, if you go with silos {000..020} on
> both ubuntu & ubuntu-rtm, you'll have to designate :)
> otherwise it'd be implied, if i'm in silo21 i'm rtm

if we use the numbers to infer if its stable vs. devel, please make a
big buffer (e.g. make all stable silos start with 5XX) so we can grow
silos without having to make the scheme more complicated. I am in
favour of not using the numbers for stable vs. devel.

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>>  * How will we handle this in the spreadsheet?  My only thought so far
>>    is that we should have a column for whether you're targeting RTM or
>>    not.  But I guess at the moment we have a destination series in the
>>    "Assign to silo" menu entry, which is used for trusty builds - I
>>    guess maybe that could be extended to include a distribution?  Seems
>>    a bit easy to make a mistake that way though.
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> won't every project have an rtm branch (and a trunk) ? therefore, any MP
> targeting project-rtm would be for rtm ?...although, that might take some
> flexibility out of mixing rtm/ubuntu for debug/test purposes (non-landing
> silo builds).

I think all projects that have to diverge will have -rtm branch. All
projects that just land isolated fixes after we do the forking could
possible continue to deliver into trunk only and land in ubuntu-rtm
and ubuntu at the same time.


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>>  * Presumably the backend and the dashboard would both need to be
>>    extended.  I'm not familiar with the details here and would welcome
>>    commentary from those who are.
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>>  * Anything else?
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>> Thanks,
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>> Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx]
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