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[Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah it's pretty similar. The differences are that it's an ARM system
instead of x86 and the way hardware access works (via an Android
container). Also obviously it doesn't use X.org/compiz and instead it uses
Mir. Other than that it's pretty much the same.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:47 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ok. I like your profile image. Once in read/write, everything is the same
> as the desktop, right? What are the most prominent differences?
>
> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> It does on the Nexus 7 2013 (flo), but you may want to try it on your
>> specific device before doing anything.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:44 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Cool. Does recovery mode present an ADB interface for repair?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> System updates doesn't work on a per-package basis, they just change
>>>> the filesystem directly. I'd just skip updates while developing if I were
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> The worst thing that can happen (probably) is that you'll need to
>>>> reinstall Ubuntu on your phone, I don't think there's any chance it'll
>>>> break your phone.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And if I work to install .Deb packages in the terminal, will those be
>>>>> separate packages and therefor untouched? I don't have much money in case
>>>>> this breaks my phone, so I have to look into everything before I do
>>>>> something
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, updates are installed from recovery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your changes *might* be preserved if you're lucky and the update
>>>>>> doesn't touch any files you've changed either. Don't count on it.
>>>>>> Luck-driven software development doesn't end well :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:35 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if I send it back into read-only before I do the update, my
>>>>>>> changes should be preserved, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it won't, so make sure you don't upgrade, or save your changes
>>>>>>>> elsewhere before you do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if you skip an OTA and install the next one, it will do a
>>>>>>>> fresh install of your system, because there won't be any delta patch
>>>>>>>> available so it'll download the entire system image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok. Thanks. I'll start working. And that will disable OTA updates,
>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You won't lose data by making it read/write, but obviously if you
>>>>>>>>>> do something wrong and screw things up you'll probably lose data.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will I lose data?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can either reboot to set it to read only or just write
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mount -o remount,ro /".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think you're going to brick your device by doing this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at most you'll have to reinstall your system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Also, how do you send it back to read only?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to know its stable, as I don't have the money to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Gran PC <gran.pc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to mark your filesystem as r/w you just have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this command as root:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount -o remount,rw /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM Eric Holmi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could try doing some of those things myself, but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the command to make the current stable version on the Nexus for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read/write. The one on the developer install page doesn't work. Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that 3G is a little bit slower than Wi-Fi, and drains battery, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't get as hot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015, Daniel van Vugt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daniel.van.vugt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things we need for efficient video playback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   1. Hardware codec support; and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   2. Hardware overlay bypass of simple surfaces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't know the status of #1 but I've heard it was coming,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if not landed already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #2 is in progress with the Mir team right now (part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "nested bypass" effort). Don't expect it finished till Mir 0.16 or Mir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.17, or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/08/15 04:51, Eric Holmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys, my Nexus 4 (most recent stable version) gave me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn that almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blistered after 15 minutes of YouTube (wifi), and went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from 29% battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 2% in that time. I think that needs to be fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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