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[John McAleely <john.mcaleely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It's perhaps worth being crystal clear, since I am familiar with all three
handsets. There is no support (in hardware) for external monitors (MHL,
slimport, HDMI, other) in:

BQ Aquaris E4.5
BQ Aquaris E5
Meizu MX4

The same is true for both the Android & Ubuntu editions of these handsets.

J


On 6 November 2015 at 09:46, Kevin Gunn <kevin.gunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think the best response I can provide is a video from our own Stephen
> Webb at UoS a couple of days ago.
>
>
> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22609/supporting-legacy-applications-on-ubuntu-personal/
>
> br,kg
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Liam <liam_philpott@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Great reply - really clear information.
>>
>> Another aspect of convergence that I'm interested in is running XMir, or
>> X-compatible applications. Will this be part of OTA-8, or any subsequent
>> OTA update? And will the BQ E4.5 have sufficient power/resources to support
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Liam.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 03:18:57 -0600
>> From: kevin.gunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: peter.bittner@xxxxxxx
>> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence (current status for bq devices)
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> It's probably important for me to state first and foremost, our
>> unity8/mir releases contain the same code across all of our supported
>> devices. This code is in our the latest images (rc-proposed that is...iirc
>> we _just_ missed the cutoff for stable/OTA7). The 2 primary features are
>> this 1) attaching a bluetooth mouse will put unity8 into windowed mode
>> (regardless of external monitor). 2) attaching an external monitor is
>> supported by the software (and will also put unity8 into windowed mode).
>> All of this will just be part of OTA8.
>>
>> Besides the software, there is of course a hardware aspect to these
>> features. For a cabled external monitor, I can only speak to Nexus4 & Nexus
>> 7(2013) which have support for slimport (not MHL, they are similar but
>> different specs). And it's been confirmed on this mailing list before, MX4
>> & BQE4.5 do not have slimport or MHL. As for your BQE5, I am not familiar
>> but would suspect the same wrt slimport and MHL.
>> And as for your bluetooth mouse connection issue with your BQE5, I can't
>> speak to that capability, maybe a bug? or maybe someone else knows...
>>
>> As for releasing a 15.10 based image, there's no plan to do so. And we're
>> still releasing all of our features into stable-phone-overlay ppa on top of
>> 15.04 - so in reality the 15.04+overlay is "more current" than 15.10 as
>> 15.10 has been closed/frozen for some time now. And what little differs
>> between 15.10 and 15.04+overlay is largely irrelevant for phone.
>>
>> br,kg
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@xxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have difficulties finding out the current status of convergence.
>>
>> There have been a few videos and photos around on YouTube, Google+,
>> OMG!Ubuntu, Ubuntu Wiki, but I've found no official roadmap or release
>> date for an Ubuntu Touch release with convergence features enabled in
>> general (on any device). Even worse, on OMG!Ubuntu a commenter
>> mentions having been told by a Canonical representative that
>> convergence will never be available for bq Aquaris (4.5) devices:
>> """
>> "The guy in charge of phone development at Canonical UK told me
>> recently that you won't be able to 'converge' your Aquaris. For one
>> thing the E4.5 isn't able to support MHL. It just doesn't have the
>> required hardware to run as a desktop."
>> """
>> See below for some sources.
>>
>> Also, I've just bought a MHL micro USB to HDMI adapter [1], which
>> works great for attaching USB pen drives, but when I try to attach
>> either a wireless keyboard and mouse [2], or an external monitor to my
>> bq Aquaris E5 Ubuntu Edition (latest OTA, 15.04, r6, VEGETEA01A-...)
>> nothing happens. Attaching a bluetooth mouse [3] to the phone isn't
>> supported yet either; same for the bluetooth keyboard of my kids' Kano
>> device. At least on the stock image updated over the air.
>>
>> So,what is actually true? Will Ubuntu Touch on our devices be capable
>> to do convergence, say, with the next OTA update? When can we expect
>> convergence to work for all devices by default? Is there a status page
>> or roadmap somewhere?
>>
>> (BTW, just noted that my phone runs 15.04; will the next OTA bring 15.10?)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --
>> Videos, images, posts on convergence:
>> - https://plus.google.com/+DanielWood/posts/BUTLNA7EpEA
>> - https://plus.google.com/+DanielWood/posts/9pxKKAsiz5w
>> -
>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/new-video-shows-off-ubuntu-convergence-demoed-on-tablet-phone
>> -
>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/first-ubuntu-phone-with-convergence-is-being-made-by-bq
>> -
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Ubuntu-touch-the-super-smartphone-convergence.pdf
>>
>> [1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=xcsource+5in1+AC148&t=canonical&ia=products
>> [2] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rapoo+e9100p&t=canonical&iac=1
>> [3]
>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=logitech+ultrathin+toch+mouse&t=canonical&ia=products
>>
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