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[Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx>]

To clarify, it doesn't care or matter how you solve the problem. It will
just do what you say. So what if it doesn't support MHL? It can do it
another way, you just have to find the other ways. Ignore the specs to a
degree, and work with them to make something more

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You can do it any way you want, even if its not designed to do it that
> way, as long as it works
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Eric Holmi <empholmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sure, but its a machine. It will do what you say, however you say to do
>> it. Can't you just format or optimize it however you want and convert it
>> back again on the way out? An extreme example would be a plain text file
>> with "pixel address: color" being thrown through everything. It doesn't
>> have to be just one format. The more outlandish the better in my mind.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Rodney Dawes <rodney.dawes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> As was already mentioned, the only possibility for such devices which
>>> lack MHL support, is to use something like Miracast or other wireless
>>> video streaming, when support for it lands in Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> You can't add MHL to a device which doesn't have hardware support for
>>> it, in the same way you can't add Bluetooth LE support to a device whith
>>> doesn't have the hardware for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 21:49 -0500, Eric Holmi wrote:
>>> > Ok. It just seems like there is some fancy way to do it. Maybe share
>>> > GPU ram with CPU or something?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Rodney Dawes
>>> > <rodney.dawes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >         The phone images use Mir, Not Xorg.
>>> >
>>> >         No, you can't bypass the lack of hardware by CPU magic. The
>>> >         pins on the
>>> >         chip are not wired up to support MHL. There is no way to
>>> >         enable MHL
>>> >         through software when there is no hardware to support it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 21:35 -0500, Eric Holmi wrote:
>>> >         > Ok. Now Im confused. How can there be graphics without a
>>> >         graphics or x
>>> >         > server? Besides, couldnt you use a CPU thread to bypass any
>>> >         hardware
>>> >         > limitations by routing the GPU's output through it, because
>>> >         the CPU
>>> >         > has access to everything?
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Rodney Dawes
>>> >         > <rodney.dawes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >         >         There is no X server on the phone.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         However, this issue is that the hardware is not
>>> >         enabled at the
>>> >         >         hardware
>>> >         >         level. There is no working around that in software.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 19:45 -0500, Eric Holmi wrote:
>>> >         >         > Is there a potential work around to make the
>>> >         device send X
>>> >         >         server
>>> >         >         > output to both the micro USB and display
>>> >         simultaneously by
>>> >         >         modifying
>>> >         >         > the X server config files, or by modding the
>>> >         display
>>> >         >         configuration
>>> >         >         > files?
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Nathan Haines
>>> >         >         <nhaines@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >         >         > wrote:
>>> >         >         >         On 01/12/2016 04:21 PM, Wayne Ward wrote:
>>> >         >         >                 Can anyone tell me which cable /
>>> >         adapter id
>>> >         >         need to
>>> >         >         >                 buy to get my Bq 4.5
>>> >         >         >                 connect to hdmi monitor please
>>> >         Link would
>>> >         >         nice..
>>> >         >         >                 Wayne
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >         The Ubuntu BQ and Meizu phones cannot
>>> >         connect to
>>> >         >         external
>>> >         >         >         displays.
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >         --
>>> >         >         >         Nathan Haines
>>> >         >         >         Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
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